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Post by CorvettCrzy on Feb 21, 2018 17:46:05 GMT -8
@vikx, does the awning rail always replace the J-rail, can they both be put on. There were a couple of trailers in the Vintage Camper Magazines with front and rear awnings. I'll look to see if anything is obvious. The gentleman in Mobiltec's video said he put threads in the end of the side tubes, drilled a hole through the end awning tube and secured it with a screw. Can't really see what the bracket at the window holding the other end of the side tube looks like, but he said it was held in place with a pin. Seems like aluminum tubing would be easy to thread and light. mobiltec - what was he using for his large awning? I couldn't catch what he said it was called. Thanks.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 21, 2018 17:52:08 GMT -8
@vikx, does the awning rail always replace the J-rail, can they both be put on. There were a couple of trailers in the Vintage Camper Magazines with front and rear awnings. I'll look to see if anything is obvious. The gentleman in Mobiltec's video said he put threads in the end of the side tubes, drilled a hole through the end awning tube and secured it with a screw. Can't really see what the bracket at the window holding the other end of the side tube looks like, but he said it was held in place with a pin. Seems like aluminum tubing would be easy to thread and light. mobiltec - what was he using for his large awning? I couldn't catch what he said it was called. Thanks. I'll have to watch the video again to refresh my memory. But I remember it sounded fairly easy to do. I just never got around to doing it myself. I'll be back with my response in a bit.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 21, 2018 17:56:56 GMT -8
OK... LOL ya that's pretty easy. You can by a tool to make the threads at a hardware store and you just screw it into the end of the tube by hand. It makes the threads as you do that. The little channel is just aluminum U channel you can find at the hardware store and you just cut it to length and drill a hole in it and the end of the tube and put a pin through it to hold it there. The top of the awning in this case just snaps in. You can by screw snaps for that. Or you could put an awning rail there instead of snaps and do it that way. Very simple. I really like the idea. Probably do that with my Jewel and I'll be sure to make a video when I do.
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Post by CorvettCrzy on Feb 21, 2018 19:00:03 GMT -8
mobiltec do you happen to remember what the poles were made from for the large (regular) awning. You were both talking about how it was self supporting and parts were easy to come by. He called it something, but I counldn't catch what it was? Thanks for your other response also.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 21, 2018 19:13:34 GMT -8
mobiltec do you happen to remember what the poles were made from for the large (regular) awning. You were both talking about how it was self supporting and parts were easy to come by. He called it something, but I counldn't catch what it was? Thanks for your other response also. The poles were just simple EMT piping you can get at the hardware store. It's conduit for electrical. Light weight aluminum. The connector piece you see you can find online anywhere or at hardware stores. Pole connectors for tarp shelters and that type of stuff.
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Post by vikx on Feb 21, 2018 20:56:39 GMT -8
The J rail and awning rail can both go on IF YOU HAVE WOOD BACKING where the screws will go. The skin itself isn't strong enough to support an awning. Awnings move and rock, so there's a lot of wear and tear...
Again, adding an awning rail in place of J rail needs good wood as well.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 22, 2018 6:11:49 GMT -8
The J rail and awning rail can both go on IF YOU HAVE WOOD BACKING where the screws will go. The skin itself isn't strong enough to support an awning. Awnings move and rock, so there's a lot of wear and tear... Again, adding an awning rail in place of J rail needs good wood as well. That's why there are so many screw holes in awning rail.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Feb 23, 2018 9:55:41 GMT -8
Thanks for all this info everyone. And I’m glad to hear I can switch out the j-rail for awning rail on my friends trailer. I’ll stuff matchsticks with gruels glue in the screw holes do hopefully it will beef it up. She refuses to even lift the skirts on her trailer as she has seen the rot on mine and yet how perfect it looks inside and so she is afraid to look under hers lest it be the same situation. I have tried to explain to her that there will be rot and better to face up sooner than later after there is major water damage but she does not want to go there. So I’m helping her with her awning and a few other basic things but that’s all.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 23, 2018 10:04:39 GMT -8
Thanks for all this info everyone. And I’m glad to hear I can switch out the j-rail for awning rail on my friends trailer. I’ll stuff matchsticks with gruels glue in the screw holes do hopefully it will beef it up. She refuses to even lift the skirts on her trailer as she has seen the rot on mine and yet how perfect it looks inside and so she is afraid to look under hers lest it be the same situation. I have tried to explain to her that there will be rot and better to face up sooner than later after there is major water damage but she does not want to go there. So I’m helping her with her awning and a few other basic things but that’s all. That will not work. If you need to stick tooth picks in the holes to make the awning rail stick, you have already lost the battle. The first time a little wind comes along and catches that awning the rail will be ripped clean from the trailer and then you will be forced to take the top off. I don't even deal with people who will not listen to reason. I drop them like a hot potato. If you do this, when the disaster happens it will be ALL YOUR FAULT Wendy. So just don't even go there. If she wants to do that, let her. Then at least when it happens (and I guaranty it will) at least it won't be YOUR FAULT. Again Wendy. You need to stay far away from this friend of yours and her trailer. You tried. She didn't listen. Drop it now or suffer the consequences later.
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Post by vikx on Feb 23, 2018 20:32:54 GMT -8
Wendy, I really have to agree with Mobil on this one. I wouldn't replace the J rail for your friend. It is asking for trouble without being sure there is good wood.
You could try to inspect:
1. Are the screw heads in good condition? Not rusty or corroded? 2. Remove a few screws. Do they unscrew easily, are the threads clean? Rusty threads are a sure sign of rotten wood. 3. Another sign of rotten wood is a screw that spins in place without moving.
If any of the above is present, the trailer will need new edge wood before installing an awning rail.
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