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Post by flameout on Feb 7, 2018 17:30:39 GMT -8
I recently purchased some new panels from Hemet Valley (complete roof and 3 side panels) and now I need to paint my old, faded panels to match the white of the new ones. I sent an email to Hemet Valley, but it wasn't Steve that replied, and all they said was that it was a "polyester paint". I innitially was going to go to my local PPG auto paint store and see if they could match the white in a single stage urethane, but now I'm no so sure. I'm sure there must be others here that needed to match the white from HV. What did you use? I found a Rust-oleum polyester www.grainger.com/product/5H960?cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!166590821508!!!!376789241695!&ef_id=Vl5tsgAABdQQzB@y:20180208011437:s&kwid=productads-adid^166590821508-device^t-plaid^376789241695-sku^5H960-adType^PLA Here are a few shots of my new panels (temporarily hung) <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/39431192914/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4742/39431192914_e590b5ac68_h.jpg" width="1600" height="900" alt="Shasta"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/40142935591/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4610/40142935591_1a981f1f9c_h.jpg" width="1600" height="900" alt="Shasta"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/40110096802/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4723/40110096802_9dff88b980_h.jpg" width="1600" height="900" alt="Shasta"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Post by vikx on Feb 7, 2018 19:35:52 GMT -8
I don't use Hemet because Steve will NOT communicate via email.
When we use new siding, we sand lightly to scruff the factory paint and paint the whole trailer. It's much easier to paint the new than try to match it. Hasn't happened for me.
I'm thinking you might be able to take a sample to the paint shop and see if they can match it. Hemet won't sell you any? At any rate, I think you'll have to paint everything to get even coloring.
Also, since Hemet is in Calif, the paint they're using is not oil based. They have weird laws on chemicals down there. I'd go with something sold in your area so that you can buy touch up if ever needed.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 8, 2018 6:04:48 GMT -8
Hemet doesn't paint the aluminum. It comes in huge rolls like that and the color is Polar White. I do what Vikx does. Paint the entire trailer. Even when I do all new skin I paint the entire trailer after skuffing the polar white.
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Post by flameout on Feb 8, 2018 6:30:39 GMT -8
I may just do that (paint entire trailer) minus the roof. I remember Steve telling me it was Polar White, but figured there were probably dozens of shades of polar white.
From past experiences, the painting is the easy and fun part, the prep is what sucks, but an important step not to skimp on. I may hit up the PPG store today and see what they can do for me. I still have about 3 qts of (SPI) epoxy primer and plenty of wax and grease remover. I'll probably just need about a quart of gold and may 3 of a closely matched white
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Post by jukebox on Feb 8, 2018 7:22:47 GMT -8
The new white panel looks nice. With that gold band in the center of the upper and lower panels it might be a good time to consider a 2 tone look. Too much white might be just too much white.
I am considering replacing the front panel on my Shasta Airflyte. How was your panels shipped?
Is your roof one piece now?
I also notice that they crimped the bottom edge of you new panel to accept another panel. Nice.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 8, 2018 8:13:31 GMT -8
The new white panel looks nice. With that gold band in the center of the upper and lower panels it might be a good time to consider a 2 tone look. Too much white might be just too much white. I am considering replacing the front panel on my Shasta Airflyte. How was your panels shipped? Is your roof one piece now? I also notice that they crimped the bottom edge of you new panel to accept another panel. Nice. I have several videos showing how this metal siding and roofing is made if you are interested. The "crimped" portion is called a seam lock or S lock. The roofs are made from several panels locked together with an "Acme Seam" that will not leak. Explanation of locks: youtu.be/u6U23M0rh_8Fabricating A New Metal Roof: youtu.be/J_Iw4rs7s7s |
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Post by kathleenc on Feb 8, 2018 8:54:37 GMT -8
"Acme Seam" sounds like something Wylie E. Coyote would order up! Beep Beep!
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Post by flameout on Feb 8, 2018 12:34:08 GMT -8
I am considering replacing the front panel on my Shasta Airflyte. How was your panels shipped? Is your roof one piece now? I also notice that they crimped the bottom edge of you new panel to accept another panel. Nice. The panels were rolled and all shipped in one box. As Mobiltec said, the roof consists of 4×8' sheets, crimped, just like the original. I have 17' of roof, 2 sheets of 4x8 siding and 1 sheet 4×5 siding. The bottom edge on mine is called a Pittsburgh lock, or at least that is what Steve at Hemet told me. I ordered on a Thursday and it arrived at my door yesterday. Not bad for such a big box going from California to Pennsylvania. As you can probably guess, shipping if the owny downside, but I didnt have much choice <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/39431199254/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4699/39431199254_8c01dca7d1_c.jpg" width="800" height="450" alt="Shasta"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 8, 2018 12:41:08 GMT -8
A pittsburg lock is basically a big bulgy seam lock. They were used a lot in the older trailers. Then along came the S lock. Much flatter in design so it's not so hard to seal around it as in where the windows go over said lock.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 12:41:54 GMT -8
I'm curious what paint you will end up going with. You mentioned PPG - single stage urethane? Does anyone here have any experience with Eastwood? The price is a bit less, but I haven't used it yet.
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Post by nccamper on Feb 8, 2018 12:49:25 GMT -8
As suggested above, on one camper I used the white as my upper color and did a two tone paint job using PPG Omni paint on the bottom. On another camper I replaced two panels and painted over them because matching the polar white was impossible.
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BW, I've never used Eastwood but heard it was "good paint just one step below PPG". I'm not sure why. How much cheaper is it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 18:19:54 GMT -8
NC, below is a "checkout" listing from Eastwood I created while budgeting for my Catalina. Keep in mind that Eastwood has "their" colors, so you are not going to get a direct match to an automotive finish. However, they do have quite a few standard colors available, so I should find something I like.
Line 1 is what I'm considering for the frame and belly pan. Possibly the roof also. Lines 2 & 3 are for the primer and primer activator. Lines 4 & 5 are for the paint and paint activator. Lines 6 & 7 are for the clear and clear activator. Not sure yet if I'll use clear on a trailer. I generally use it on cars to give me plenty of wet sanding room before polishing. Shipping is approximately $25 for everything listed - not bad.
The pricing seems pretty good to me as compared to PPG Omni. Like you say, it might be a step down in performance. A friend of mine just sprayed a '69 Chevelle with Eastwood and was very happy with the results. So I might give it a try...
Do you recall how much Omni you used on the Forester? I was hoping to get both a trailer and a car out of the listing shown below.
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Post by nccamper on Feb 8, 2018 20:23:49 GMT -8
"I was hoping to get both a trailer and a car out of the listing shown below."
It will be close. I think I used a little less than 1/2 a gallon (two coats) on the lower half of the Forester.
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Post by flameout on Feb 11, 2018 15:44:12 GMT -8
I'm curious what paint you will end up going with. You mentioned PPG - single stage urethane? Does anyone here have any experience with Eastwood? The price is a bit less, but I haven't used it yet. I ended up going with PPG (Shopline) single stage for the white and gold. I thought the white was close, until I paai ted the panel. I ended up also painting the new panels too. I have 1 side done for now This was the white <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/40175159791/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta Paint"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4654/40175159791_c0f96bef53_z.jpg" width="640" height="360" alt="Shasta Paint"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> The gold <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/40142267962/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta Paint"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4678/40142267962_dbc8ed79e7_z.jpg" width="640" height="360" alt="Shasta Paint"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Here it is done (the door and botton gold trim aren't finished) just the paint and windows and I need grommets before I can mount the lights. I just wish the HV mesa deluxe pattern would have matched a little better <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/40180012782/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta Paint"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4676/40180012782_2bdb2b3263_c.jpg" width="800" height="450" alt="Shasta Paint"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/flameout/25341381587/in/datetaken-public/" title="Shasta Paint"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4623/25341381587_ec42436e38_c.jpg" width="800" height="450" alt="Shasta Paint"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 16:42:58 GMT -8
Looks like a great start. You made this comment:
"I just wish the HV mesa deluxe pattern would have matched a little better"
Can you clarify what you mean here? It appears from the photos that your original siding has sharper brake ridges in the pattern. Is that what you are referring to?
My wife, DLW is considering replacing a siding piece of the same pattern on her Maple Leaf. I would prefer to repair it instead. This may have a big influence on what direction we go if the brake sharpness doesn't match very good.
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