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Post by Rcimp on Oct 31, 2013 10:17:45 GMT -8
Hey every one, my first post yahoo. My wife and I are currently finishing up a 63? Scout. It had three or four layers of paint on it and my wife wanted it all off. She tried many different brands of paint removers/strippers, and she did not like any of them until she found this stuff called Citristrip at Home Depot. What she likes about it (and me to) is it does not really dry. What she would do is apply this stuff in the evening, then the next day late afternoon would go out and the paint would strip right off with a scraper. It has a really nice smell to, like oranges. She stripped the whole trailer all the way down to the bare aluminum. It is now primered and we are hopefully painting this weekend with LIC Brand Industrial single stage paint from English Color. The paint has to be sprayed but it is already thinned for a cup gun with a 1.3 to 1.4 nozzle. The only thing you have to add is a hardener to speed up drying time of 4 hours. Will post pics when I am done. www.homedepot.com/p/Citristrip-1-2-gal-Safer-Paint-and-Varnish-Stripping-Gel-HCG73803T/100141801?N=c5boRcimp p.s. Hope posting links is okay?
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 31, 2013 20:10:52 GMT -8
Hey Rcimp thanks. Can't wait to see how it comes out. I'm wanting to learn all I can about painting. I have come to the conclusion that the hardest thing to deal with in the restoral of a trailer is the painter. So I want to eliminnate that part of the equation and learn to do it myself.
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Post by Nomad95336 on Dec 25, 2013 4:11:59 GMT -8
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Post by swirlygirls on Dec 25, 2013 6:24:47 GMT -8
I'm looking ahead to painting as well. The person who is working on my trailer with me has had some experience painting so he'll be doing it. I went off to my local speciality auto paint store the other day and came out having spent more money on the paint, hardeners, catalyst, tape, etc. than I had on the trailer originally. They told me a neat trick to determine if the old paint has to come off. Take lacquer thinner, soak a rag, hold it on the old paint for 1 minute. If you have paint on the rag it needs to come off. If not, do a happy dance and just scruff well before cleaning. I haven't had a chance to try it yet. They also aid the "surface" really needs to be 60 degrees in order to paint so it could be awhile before we get to that.
Merry Christmas everyone!
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Post by bigbill on Dec 25, 2013 8:20:34 GMT -8
Also if it has unhardened enamel paint on it the lacquer thinner will cruel it up like cottage cheese and that will have to be removed. Any finish that is affected by acetate/lacquer thinner should come off before new automotive paints are applied in order for you to have a durable lasting finish.
HO HO HO Merry Christmas to you and all.
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 25, 2013 9:36:00 GMT -8
Also if it has unhardened enamel paint on it the lacquer thinner will cruel it up like cottage cheese and that will have to be removed. Any finish that is affected by acetate/lacquer thinner should come off before new automotive paints are applied in order for you to have a durable lasting finish. HO HO HO Merry Christmas to you and all. Isn't that why the aluminum is etched with acid after the paint has been removed? Think I heard it that way...
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Post by John Palmer on Dec 25, 2013 10:56:08 GMT -8
Here's my view point on trailer painting, and the associated issues with applying it, to get a professional looking and lasting result.
First the paint products sold in this country are not all the same, due to the many environmental restrictions. Paint removers, paint solvents, reducers, thinners, and types of paint are "all affected" by these regulations. Heck, in just California it's not all the same products state wide(ie: South Coast Air Quality Management District, and AQMD regulations are restricted by county).
The result is, what is the best way to do the job in one area (of the state, or the country) is not even a choice in a different area. That makes it almost impossible (on the internet) for someone in one area to give any valid advice to "how to do it" to another person in a different area. It does not make the information wrong, it's just not done the same way in all areas due to the different products that you have available.
So........What do you do? IN My Opinion, you want to find your local (automotive) paint store. Find the old grey haired guy behind the counter, and tell him your story. Tell him what your trying to do, what equipment you have available, and what your experience level is with paint products. He will tell you exactly what to do to prepare the surface, what environment (wind, temperature, and humidity) you can spray in. And what products you need to use. It's not going to be cheap, $600 to $800 is the cost for materials to do a base coat clear coat two color paint job on a small canned ham in my area of Southern California. Also, DO NOT MIX products. Buy all of your supplies from the same guy, at the same place. Don't try to use "old product" you might have left from a job done a couple of years ago. These products a constantly changing.
Internet......Yes you can purchase the paint from internet companies. Note, some internet companies like Summit Performance, will not sell/ship to you their advertised paints after they find out your zip code due to air quality regulations. But the single biggest difference is the INFORMATION you will need. If your already a professional painter this is a good option because you already know what you need. But if your new to the paint game go to your local paint dealer and take his advice and follow it to the letter, take the Material Data Sheets he has and read and follow "ALL the suggestions". Every error possible has already been made by someone else. Just read the sheets of what not to do and you will get a great result.
Just this old timer's opinion
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Post by bigbill on Dec 25, 2013 15:15:57 GMT -8
I agree completely John, the only problem is the old gray haired guy retired and they replaced him with a guy that don't know what planet he is on, in a lot of cases.
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Post by Nomad95336 on Dec 25, 2013 19:59:53 GMT -8
Completely agree, John. I had no idea what I was getting into when I walked into the local paint supply house. What started off as an almost $900 sale was whittled down to just $300 once I told the guy exactly what i was looking for regarding prep, colors, and durability..and my painting skill level. LOL
I was waiting for the guy just to roll his eyes and point to the nearest Earl Shieb...
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Post by swirlygirls on Dec 26, 2013 5:59:08 GMT -8
That's exactly what I did. I went to my local auto paint speciality store which was recommended by many experts in this area. Although I didn't get a grey haired guy I got two middle aged guys who were really into the trailer and took a lot of time with me discussing it, explaining it, etc. There was some disagreement about exactly how much of one product I'd need so I also have the option of returning it and the hardener if I don't use the two additional cans. And last but not least they gave me an overall discount off the bottom line, told me to call anytime for tech help, and asked me to send photos of the trailer. They work with a lot of trailers but most aren't as old as mine. The experience was great and since I'm a woman, I can tell you that in stores like this I often get treated like I couldn't find my way out of a paper bag with a flashlight so I appreciated their attitude even more!!
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 26, 2013 8:21:00 GMT -8
Taking notes...
1. Send in a good looking girl friend so the employees are free with the advice and hopefully give her a discount.
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Post by bigbill on Dec 26, 2013 11:45:21 GMT -8
Larry I,m sure that is not a political correct statement in todays world even if it is true. I know a gal that swears by a tight T-shirt when she wants extra help or information. I kid her about it but as she says it works most of the time.
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Post by swirlygirls on Dec 26, 2013 12:59:46 GMT -8
Well, guys, I'm too old to be in the "good looking" category and haven't had a tight T-shirt on in some time. My concern would be that if the woman was too "hot' they might be distracted and give bad information. I just acted as nice as I could be and inquired after their children, dogs and trailers and they started chatting me up. :-)
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 26, 2013 13:01:33 GMT -8
Larry I,m sure that is not a political correct statement in todays world even if it is true. I know a gal that swears by a tight T-shirt when she wants extra help or information. I kid her about it but as she says it works most of the time. LOL Bill I'm into reality. Not political correctness.
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Post by mobiltec on Dec 26, 2013 13:04:39 GMT -8
Well, guys, I'm too old to be in the "good looking" category and haven't had a tight T-shirt on in some time. My concern would be that if the woman was too "hot' they might be distracted and give bad information. I just acted as nice as I could be and inquired after their children, dogs and trailers and they started chatting me up. :-) Swirly you are most likely 100% correct about that. I actually went to the paint shop my painter uses not too long ago to pick up stripper and they were very helpful to me. They also said to ask questions any time I want. I told them that I would like to learn to paint myself and they said they were more than happy to help in any way they can. It was just a joke and perhaps a bad one. I guess we're not allowed to joke anymore either. Life is no fun without laughing.
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