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Post by vulcancowboy on Sept 24, 2013 12:57:34 GMT -8
Just purchased a '68 Scotty Sportsman and have started restoration. Looks like I will need to do a floor up, but time will tell!
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Post by universalexports on Sept 24, 2013 15:25:03 GMT -8
welcome to the club!!!
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Post by bigbill on Sept 24, 2013 16:37:40 GMT -8
Welcome What area of the country do you live in?
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Post by kirkadie on Sept 24, 2013 19:05:55 GMT -8
Welcome vulcan, I'm on my way back up from a "down to the floor" on a '69 Scotty. Have documented every step of the way but am too old and apparently stupid to figure out how to post all the pics. I think you'll find it much easier to do new prelimenaries on the Scotty than Shasta as walls are plywood panels instead of 1 x 4 framing. Everything else you'll run into applies to most models. Lots of good help here. Sharpen up the prybar and hang on to your hat... it's a fun ride.
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Post by vulcancowboy on Sept 25, 2013 10:36:42 GMT -8
Welcome What area of the country do you live in? Just north of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
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Post by vulcancowboy on Sept 25, 2013 10:42:47 GMT -8
Welcome vulcan, I'm on my way back up from a "down to the floor" on a '69 Scotty. Have documented every step of the way but am too old and apparently stupid to figure out how to post all the pics. I think you'll find it much easier to do new prelimenaries on the Scotty than Shasta as walls are plywood panels instead of 1 x 4 framing. Everything else you'll run into applies to most models. Lots of good help here. Sharpen up the prybar and hang on to your hat... it's a fun ride. Thanks for the encouragement kirkadie. I'm amazed at how much info there is on restoring these trailers. I bought ours on a total whim, saw it on ebay with only 3 hours left in the auction. My wife was away for the evening, so I couldn't even contact her, thankfully, she is totally onboard. No title for the trailer, but our initial plan is to fix it up and use it for a playhouse for our granddaughters. We have an old bank barn we can move it to for the winter when they aren't using it. If nothing else, it is a great excuse to buy more tools!
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 25, 2013 12:18:11 GMT -8
You'll get along just fine here. Something I would like to suggest is that you go ahead and get the trailer registered now so that if you ever want to use it you can. The main reason to do it now is to make dang sure it isn't going to turn up stolen from years and years ago and there goes your trailer with all the restoration done to it already and you have no say in the matter. This actually happened to Cindy and Bob Ross with a nice little "Tag-a-long". They fully restored it with no title and then went to get it registered. It turned up stolen years ago so they had to contact the original owner. He took it back without even offering a reward LOL.. All that time and money down the drain.
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Post by vulcancowboy on Sept 26, 2013 3:13:27 GMT -8
You'll get along just fine here. Something I would like to suggest is that you go ahead and get the trailer registered now so that if you ever want to use it you can. The main reason to do it now is to make dang sure it isn't going to turn up stolen from years and years ago and there goes your trailer with all the restoration done to it already and you have no say in the matter. This actually happened to Cindy and Bob Ross with a nice little "Tag-a-long". They fully restored it with no title and then went to get it registered. It turned up stolen years ago so they had to contact the original owner. He took it back without even offering a reward LOL.. All that time and money down the drain. Hey Larry, thanks for the advice. Wow, I feel like I’m chatting with a canned ham movie star! Recently, I posted a question on one of your videos about vapor barriers. I just joined this site and found a thread about that topic. Sorry if it seemed like I was beating a dead horse.
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Post by hoosierpoet on Sept 26, 2013 3:48:31 GMT -8
One thing about beating a dead horse - it never does any harm. You can't hurt the horse!
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Post by mobiltec on Sept 26, 2013 5:52:03 GMT -8
No worries Vulcan. It's always good to double check things. Remember. Measure twice, cut once... Im not the only one with good ideas. I learn a heck of a lot here as well.
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Post by shastabear on Sept 26, 2013 11:42:00 GMT -8
Vulcan Welcome aboard and we're not far apart. I'm below ya between Gettysburg and Chambersburg. Also, mobiltec is right about getting your camper titled. I bought a Shasta compact with no title and in order to title it was going to be a major pain. So, I gave it away to later find out that for a fraction of the cost, I could have had it titled as a home built...new VIN and all for less than $300.
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Post by kirkadie on Sept 26, 2013 18:37:03 GMT -8
Vulcan, I also got mine with no title. In Ohio it can be tricky. My PO said they had owned it for years and years??? Some good sources have suggested avoiding your state's DMV and going through AAA if you're a member. I am, so that's my plan A, but first, before I finish out the Hilander I'll take it to a weigh scale (sand and gravel seller or scrap recycler) and get it weighed. Then, if need be, I'll get it registered simply as a trailer. My objective is to be able to travel legally, whatever the trailer is called on an Ohio legal paper, but would eventually rather it documented as what it is and once was. Plan B is that it outlives me and my heirs get to grapple with Ohio's antiquated anti-rustling horseflesh/canned ham laws.
I think you're gonna have a blast doing this project. Just spend your allowence money, get some cool new tools, constantly ask your bunkmate how they would like to see this or that done, and constantly remind yourself how good it will be, first nite out, chairs around your campsite, with a pot of coffee on the stove inside, or a good bottle of merlot on the dinette table, even if all this happens in your back yard- I put our lawn chairs and little rusty bistro table on the Scotty floor before the walls went up,in the car port where I'm rebuilding, with a nice bottle of, and our favorite glasses, and Christine said, with a twinkle in her eyes, " you've really, finally lost it, but I admire your spirit". Even if you have to strip it down to the wheel bearings (not a bad idea if it's been sitting a decade or more) it's an act of rebirth, for both the trailer and the rebuilder, and surprisingly good for the mental health of the rebuilder, and physical heath of the rebuildee. You both deserve the project, however experienced you may be. We are so lucky to have at hand the encyclopedia of ham restoration 101, with Larry's vids, multitudes of member rebuild pictorials and references to other trailer brand sites... it's like community college at Disneyland.
If you don't have a camera, and don't document your every, sometimes measly steps, and then make a pictorial, eventually you, and more immediately, WE will be missing something important. Everybody does a rebuild in a slightly different manner. Eentually, every rebuild will have a wrinkle in it that's not covered somewhere, and that's the beauty of this, and even though I'm a Scotty, our great old vintage shasta site RIP. Someone was/is always coming up with some new twist or tool that was the answer to the daily question for someone.
Have fun and ignore the cash register reciepts (till it's time to sell), seriously!
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Post by ndpap on Sept 27, 2013 2:43:22 GMT -8
Vulcan, I also got mine with no title. In Ohio it can be tricky. My PO said they had owned it for years and years??? Some good sources have suggested avoiding your state's DMV and going through AAA if you're a member. I am, so that's my plan A, but first, before I finish out the Hilander I'll take it to a weigh scale (sand and gravel seller or scrap recycler) and get it weighed. Then, if need be, I'll get it registered simply as a trailer. My objective is to be able to travel legally, whatever the trailer is called on an Ohio legal paper, but would eventually rather it documented as what it is and once was. Plan B is that it outlives me and my heirs get to grapple with Ohio's antiquated anti-rustling horseflesh/canned ham laws. I think you're gonna have a blast doing this project. Just spend your allowence money, get some cool new tools, constantly ask your bunkmate how they would like to see this or that done, and constantly remind yourself how good it will be, first nite out, chairs around your campsite, with a pot of coffee on the stove inside, or a good bottle of merlot on the dinette table, even if all this happens in your back yard- I put our lawn chairs and little rusty bistro table on the Scotty floor before the walls went up,in the car port where I'm rebuilding, with a nice bottle of, and our favorite glasses, and Christine said, with a twinkle in her eyes, " you've really, finally lost it, but I admire your spirit". Even if you have to strip it down to the wheel bearings (not a bad idea if it's been sitting a decade or more) it's an act of rebirth, for both the trailer and the rebuilder, and surprisingly good for the mental health of the rebuilder, and physical heath of the rebuildee. You both deserve the project, however experienced you may be. We are so lucky to have at hand the encyclopedia of ham restoration 101, with Larry's vids, multitudes of member rebuild pictorials and references to other trailer brand sites... it's like community college at Disneyland. If you don't have a camera, and don't document your every, sometimes measly steps, and then make a pictorial, eventually you, and more immediately, WE will be missing something important. Everybody does a rebuild in a slightly different manner. Eentually, every rebuild will have a wrinkle in it that's not covered somewhere, and that's the beauty of this, and even though I'm a Scotty, our great old vintage shasta site RIP. Someone was/is always coming up with some new twist or tool that was the answer to the daily question for someone. Have fun and ignore the cash register reciepts (till it's time to sell), seriously! Bravo!!!!! well stated!!!!
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Post by hoosierpoet on Sept 27, 2013 5:00:53 GMT -8
The more I read about other states' DMV registration problems, the more I'm thankful to live in Indiana! Really. If you don't have a title, no problem; just grab a one-page form off the internet, call the sheriff's office, and a nice officer will stop by in about 24 hours, and verify the VIN, and sign the form. (If you can't find a VIN, you will just need to have one engraved on a little plate, and have it affixed to the frame. No kidding!) Once you have that paper, you're good to go - take it to the local DMV office, and you'll have your registration and plates within the week. Out-of-state vehicle purchases have to be inspected (just to see that the VIN is correct) even if they do have a title, but that's easy too. When we registered our '61 Airflyte, she had a title but they needed the model name, which wasn't on the title. It wasn't in the state database - so the clerk called, and within minutes, "Airflyte" was added in, permanently and state-wide! Also, they needed to know the ORIGINAL purchase price (yes, from back in '61!) but that was easy too, I just did a quick internet search on my smart phone and found an approximate price. Good enough. Hate to admit that any government entity is logical, quick, and efficient, but the Indiana DMV comes pretty darn close!
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Post by bigbill on Sept 27, 2013 6:37:54 GMT -8
Kirkadie in Ohio the AAA doesn't do titles you have to go to the your local title office. Tell them the PO claimed they never had a title and it hasn't been towed for 10 or 15 years so ask them to do a title search. They will verify The vin# and run a title search if you have a bill of sale from the PO . IF they don't find a title they will issue one to you. If it pops up stolen you are out unless you can buy it from the owner or the insurance company if they paid for it. You tow it with weigh tags but get stopped and the officer runs a search and it pops up stolen then you can be arrested and the trailer will be confiscated and returned to the rightful owner. My advice is to get a clear title before you do any work. Ohio is getting tougher on this stuff all the time. Or if you are doing a full frame up restore grind off all the old numbers and then when it is finished take all the receipts and pictures to the state inspection station and for $50.00 you can tell them it is a repop and get a self assembled title. The JAIL TIME YOU SAVE COULD BE YOURS.
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