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Post by kimberwarden on Sept 5, 2016 17:12:40 GMT -8
A Wave 3 heater has been recommended for my 16' Oasis. My question is about where to install it so it will heat the whole trailer.
Our dinette is in the front of the trailer. Looking in from the door, the door is to the left of the dinette, and there's a cabinet to the left of the door. Do most people install their heaters in the side of that cabinet, facing toward the dinette? If I install it there, will the back of the trailer ever get warm? Or will it only heat the front half? Should I try to find a more central location?
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Post by nccamper on Sept 6, 2016 5:25:05 GMT -8
I have a portable Little Buddy heater and no matter where I put it the camper heats up like an oven. I've never heard of anybody complaining about the Wave3 not completely heating a small camper, so you should be fine.
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Post by swirlygirls on Sept 6, 2016 5:52:03 GMT -8
I have a 15" Oasis with the same configuration as you. I put the heater by the closet. I put it on the left side at the bottom (as you look at the closet). It's out of the way and warms everything up. On the advice of experts, I made sure it is sticking out far enough so it doesn't fry the wood above it. I also made a cover to keep dust and dog hair from getting in the filter when it's not in use. Here's a photo: s1288.photobucket.com/user/Swirlygirls/media/IMG_0225_zpsz6vrlkmm.jpg.html
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Post by ladywendolyn on Sept 6, 2016 17:15:03 GMT -8
One other option is to keep it free standing, stored in a closet, and just install a quick connect hose connection. I think I may do it this way.
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Post by vikx on Sept 6, 2016 20:45:31 GMT -8
NEVER use the quick connect fittings inside!! They are not legal and not rated safe for interior use... I put mine on the side of the closet with appropriate backers when possible. A Wave 3 will cook happily and you won't be chilly. Most of the time, they need to be off when you retire. Too warm to sleep. Also be sure to have a CO detector. 
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Post by nccamper on Sept 7, 2016 4:31:08 GMT -8
I put mine on the side of the closet with appropriate backers when possible. "Appropriate backers" Brackets made for the heater?
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Post by ladywendolyn on Sept 7, 2016 6:21:30 GMT -8
NEVER use the quick connect fittings inside!! They are not legal and not rated safe for interior use... I put mine on the side of the closet with appropriate backers when possible. A Wave 3 will cook happily and you won't be chilly. Most of the time, they need to be off when you retire. Too warm to sleep. Also be sure to have a CO detector.  Wow... so glad to know that! Weirdly, they show one with the hose inside a trailer in the heater advertisement.
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Post by vikx on Sept 7, 2016 10:43:20 GMT -8
Appropriate backers: Slats of wood glued and screwed inside the closet. I use the Wave 3 pattern and drill a 1/16th hole to place the backers, usually toe screwed into the closet framing. Then, the screws provided with the Wave will be secure. When I worked in the RV business, we were not allowed to install Wave heaters with "legs". We sold legs, but could not mount them for a customer, nor install a gas line for remote use. That is the law here, possibly different in other parts of the US or Canada. That being said, I have installed my own supply valve with a 3/8 flare fitting. The valve is off and capped when not in use. For heater use, 3/8 flare hose is connected from the valve to the Wave and is safe when tightened. 
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Post by ladywendolyn on Sept 7, 2016 13:30:38 GMT -8
Appropriate backers: Slats of wood glued and screwed inside the closet. I use the Wave 3 pattern and drill a 1/16th hole to place the backers, usually toe screwed into the closet framing. Then, the screws provided with the Wave will be secure. When I worked in the RV business, we were not allowed to install Wave heaters with "legs". We sold legs, but could not mount them for a customer, nor install a gas line for remote use. That is the law here, possibly different in other parts of the US or Canada. That being said, I have installed my own supply valve with a 3/8 flare fitting. The valve is off and capped when not in use. For heater use, 3/8 flare hose is connected from the valve to the Wave and is safe when tightened. So just to clarify... I "tightened" connector would be ok with a hose?
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Post by chametzoo on Sept 7, 2016 18:18:29 GMT -8
Vikx installation is typical… that is, in the entry foyer. Catalytic heaters are very directional. Meaning, they direct heat like a flashlight. Where ever it "shines" it warms. It can also secondarily transfer heat through air molecule transfer, but not very effectively. I personally find that my bunk area in the back, does not get nearly as warm as the front dinette area. You'll still need that sleeping bag in cooler weather. You can use Cat heaters while sleeping if you obey certain laws of physics, like cracking a window and your roof vent slightly… which kinda defeats the purpose of having heat in the first place. But it's necessary… even though there is no open flame with Cat heaters, the combustion is still consuming oxygen and therefore you need a fresh air supply. In the future, I am considering adding a second Wave 3 on the bathroom wall, opposite my lengthwise bunk…but so far I'm not doing much cold weather camping… and the sleeping bag does the trick and then fire up the Wave in the AM, upon rising.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Sept 7, 2016 18:40:10 GMT -8
So I am now wondering why no one keeps the old gas furnace, or puts in a new one, as they were supposedly "safer" as they are direct vented. Is it just the cost? The space? Just wondering...
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Post by vikx on Sept 7, 2016 19:53:25 GMT -8
If you use flare fittings and tighten properly, a Wave on legs would work and be safe. Most of my trailers are under 15 feet and the Wave 3 is more than enough to warm the entire trailer. Makes it too warm for sleeping to me.
It's rare to find an old heater or furnace that still works. Many are rusted out, especially the burner chamber. If the heater is in good condition physically, there is no reason not to keep it if it works. Unfortunately, the valves are no longer available and if they fail, not repairable. I have said it before that these old appliances are great and wish we could get parts.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Sept 7, 2016 20:00:15 GMT -8
. I have said it before that these old appliances are great and wish we could get parts. I said the same thing earlier in the week and ended up throwing $100 on a fridge for parts. Maybe some day I will be celebrating that I have a back up compressor. It's the craziest hobby I have had...
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Post by chametzoo on Sept 7, 2016 20:02:50 GMT -8
So I am now wondering why no one keeps the old gas furnace, or puts in a new one, as they were supposedly "safer" as they are direct vented. Is it just the cost? The space? Just wondering… The old air forced gas furnaces gulp propane and make lots of noise… and use electricity to run the fan. Not safer. The Cat heaters definitely save space and are simpler in principle, but do not project heat with a fan…they radiate. So, you may need more than one. Or as written in an earlier post, get a nice sleeping bag for your bunk and fire up whatever heater you've got in the morning when you awake!
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Post by nccamper on Sept 7, 2016 20:03:39 GMT -8
I tried the old heater in a Shasta once. It was basically blazing hot or off. That heater was not very adjustable.
I never liked the idea of gas appliances running while we sleep in a 12' box.
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