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Post by bigbill on Oct 4, 2013 15:20:15 GMT -8
Welcome, Gingersnap! Do we have yet another Hoosier here? Nope, I'm a Kentucky girl. Just a quick paddle across the Ohio River. They have wrote a lot of songs about those Kentucky girls!!! Welcome to you and yours.
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Post by gingersnap on Oct 19, 2013 12:01:01 GMT -8
I ventured over to visit our trailer this week and I have to say the work Soup has done is beyond amazing. There is still lots... and lots... and lots to be done, but when you see new paneling being installed it's hard not to get excited. Well done Soup!
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Post by soup on Oct 23, 2013 4:12:12 GMT -8
Thanks! www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5D07c0dJuQOh! It's the old, "new fake wall" on top of old rotted wall trick! I thought sense I only had a 1 good day of weather left before winter gets here, I might as well do the bearings real quick before the cement gets 20 degrees colder and a lot wetter for the next 5 months. (I hate doing bearings when the pavement is cold and wet) So, on a serious note; I want to take a moment to discuss "Grease fittings on axle bearings dust caps" or sometimes referred to as bearing buddies. DON'T BUY OR USE THEM, unless you are dipping your axle under water all the time. They are designed for boat trailers that the axle bearings go under water frequently. You put the grease in with a fitting on the outside of the cap, without removing the cap. The grease goes into the cap under an inner cap with a spring. When full the inner spring/cap puts pressure on the grease pack for positive grease pressure to keep water from coming in. "OH my soup, that sounds so easy and cool!" Well it is if you have a boat trailer!! These are not needed on campers unless amphibious. Here's the rub... Most people fill to max, (not following mfg's directions and specs) that causes too much positive pressure and "BLOWS OUT" the grease seal in the back. Then as owner notices his buddies needing more grease, he or she puts the lube to her!! Again and again and again. Well, where the heck do ya think all that grease goes too??!! These seals were the worst blow out I've ever seen in my whole life. (Let me tell you I have actually done hundreds of bearing jobs in the last half century.) Fittings on the dust caps usually only get the inner rubber part of the seal blown backwards and then the rubber part gets "rubbed out" for the on going grease leak, ruining your brake pads! This set at one time had so much pressure it blew the entire seal out, steel ring and all. (Usually when you remove a brake drum, the back bearing and grease seal stay in the drum and you have to forcefully remove the seal with a grease seal removing tool they are in so tight.) On this set (both sides) the grease seals and back bearings remained on the axle spindle when drum was removed!!! So back bearings and grease seals were free floating and one of the seals got bent up/damaged from free spinning!! I purchased new seals yesterday and ordered new dust caps WITHOUT grease fittings. These were designed so you would HAVE to take them apart to lube them. That way bearings get inspected every so often. With caps with fittings, you "THINK" you don't have to take apart and clean any more, but DREAM ON cause dreams are free!! But new bearings, races, seals, and axles aren't!!! I will be cleaning off all the brake systems, drums, spindles, bearings today to inspect and see how many parts are damaged. Good thing this is the camper that rode on my truck deck for the trip home. (first one ever on the deck) I didn't tow it due to having a compact being towed on the same trip. Thank goodness I was lucky enough to choose this one to ride on top of the deck instead of towing. It could have been ugly. (Might have been a real WIPEOUT!) Getting the side walls for the tent that this camper is under right now today! Once those are installed I can be dry and warm while working on the outside of the Lowflyte! To give you a real idea as to how much grease is solidly packed in the brakes, here is a pic of a clean set of brakes without all the grease build up. These were solid grease packed behind drum surface!!!!!Amazing. Never seen that before!! LOL It's days like this you gotta live for. Always good when you get to see something new, even if it's bad. Bearings didn't look too bad so hopefully just need to clean and repack those.
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Post by bigbill on Oct 23, 2013 5:26:02 GMT -8
Soup had a guy bring me a trailer one time that he and his brother in law packed the bearings and now the brakes didn't work right. I jacked it up pulled the drums and the whole inside was covered with grease that looked new so I ask him where it came from and he told me that the round thing (magnet)was rubbing on the drum and looked all worn so they greased it.
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Post by soup on Oct 23, 2013 5:30:08 GMT -8
Soup had a guy bring me a trailer one time that he and his brother in law packed the bearings and now the brakes didn't work right. I jacked it up pulled the drums and the whole inside was covered with grease that looked new so I ask him where it came from and he told me that the round thing (magnet)was rubbing on the drum and looked all worn so they greased it. BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHHHhhhh Wow, bigbill. I needed that! Amazing. You should start a new thread; PO's Past stories...or horror stories! Just from looking at the pic above, the "Grease Glacier" looks to have pushed the magnet against the inside of the drum at a weird angle, and looks to have worn the magnet at an angle on the leading face.
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Post by bigbill on Oct 23, 2013 5:58:24 GMT -8
Every time I think I have seen everything I find that I have not seen anything yet. I some times wonder if people are really that unable to think and reason and if so why don't they stick to what they know or at least stop to ask someone. They could save themselves a lot of money and grief. That is the great thing about this board people can ask anything with out being embarrassed. Heck you can even ask where a ground wire might go only to find it went back then forward.
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Post by soup on Oct 23, 2013 9:08:44 GMT -8
LOL Hey gingersnap, Your Lowflyte is weather proof now! Now to just cut up a couple old tarps and add them along the bottom and I'll be able to heat it!!!
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Post by gingersnap on Oct 24, 2013 5:58:25 GMT -8
Very nice, and it looks like you got the walls up in the nick of time. It sure has gotten cold!
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Post by mobiltec on Oct 24, 2013 6:43:35 GMT -8
Soup had a guy bring me a trailer one time that he and his brother in law packed the bearings and now the brakes didn't work right. I jacked it up pulled the drums and the whole inside was covered with grease that looked new so I ask him where it came from and he told me that the round thing (magnet)was rubbing on the drum and looked all worn so they greased it. Sometimes I wonder why I make videos because I get emails all the time with questions that are answered in more than one of the videos I've made and then when I answer them in email they argue with me. Go figure...
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Post by bigbill on Oct 24, 2013 7:06:12 GMT -8
Larry since you have never worked on a trailer before you are most likely wrong don't you realize that. Like my friends daughter was taught in High School that man never walked on the moon, that the whole thing was a photo shopped hoax by the Government to justify the money they spent. Some people are just slow learners.
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Post by cowcharge on Oct 24, 2013 11:53:04 GMT -8
God, what school teaches that? The same one in Texas that decided to rephrase the 2nd Amendment in their textbooks? I always laugh at the we-didn't-go-to-the-Moon loonies on youtube, it's so easy to debunk their nonsense. Hollywood can't even make convincing moon-walking effects NOW, never mind 44 years ago. They'll never get the dust right.
What are the magnets in the brakes for? The only time I've seen magnets in wheels were for speed-sensing.
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Post by bigbill on Oct 24, 2013 13:01:41 GMT -8
Electro magnets are what activates the electric brakes.
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Post by cowcharge on Oct 24, 2013 14:31:13 GMT -8
Electro magnets are what activates the electric brakes. Oh. Duh.
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Post by Ten on Oct 24, 2013 15:00:13 GMT -8
God, what school teaches that? The same one in Texas that decided to rephrase the 2nd Amendment in their textbooks? I always laugh at the we-didn't-go-to-the-Moon loonies on youtube, it's so easy to debunk their nonsense. Hollywood can't even make convincing moon-walking effects NOW, never mind 44 years ago. They'll never get the dust right. TX state board of ed has been trying to rewrite history in their text books in lots of ways. People that know better should not stand for it. But I do not suppose this is the place for that discussion. soup... Glad to see your shelter going up! I understand well the changes in your seasons...you should have a nice sheltered warm spot to work. Might I suggest contacting Vikx about a separate category/thread for the brakes rebuild? Your findings and the lessons that go with really should be textbook" in their own right...
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Post by vikx on Oct 24, 2013 21:21:47 GMT -8
We have a Brakes section. I'll try to move and create a new thread.... V
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