msgoehring
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Post by msgoehring on Jun 17, 2016 19:43:59 GMT -8
Since I'm on the topic of windows, do any Westerner owners or others who might have this big front window, know how to take it apart??? I need to figure out what seal or gasket or whatever is holding the middle pane of glass in. I would also like to know if the awning windows come off the ends. Here's some pictures: Sorry there shaky, by back is really acting up tonight and I'm hurting so can't stop the shaky hands. Would really appreciate some instructions on this. Margaret
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msgoehring
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Post by msgoehring on Jun 17, 2016 19:45:15 GMT -8
Also, the first picture shows the weird black layer some PO painted on all the window frames.
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Post by trailertrasher on Jun 17, 2016 21:55:09 GMT -8
The seal for the center window is glazing tape. To remove the fixed glass you must first remove the glazing clips. These are the metal strips angled into the glass on the outside. They lock onto the glass edges,so to remove you will need to slide something really thin between them and the glass,push in enough to release them from the glass edge and then pull them upward. They are very easy to damage so be patient..
If you want to replace the back frame seals on the opening windows,you can first remove the levers,then open up one of the tabs at the end of each hinge. Do this by curling them open with some needle nose pliers. Do not try to unbend at the factory bend as they will likely break off. So curl open only enough the slide the hinge apart.
With the sashes removed,you will need to remove the reveal covers (name?) that are inside between the fixed and the opening units. One side of these locks on,the other just held by built in spring load,so grab with both hands and try to roll/peel it off. Again these are easily damaged..
Ok,now you can see all the screws that hold the opening unit to the main back frame, take em out. Now the header above the top hinge is riveted to the main frame,so here you have to ask yourself,do I want to go through all that,or will a simple bead of gutter seal suffice for this portion. With the screws out you should be able to lift the back frame from the main frame enough to replace the back frame gaskets..
Have fun and rest that back...
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msgoehring
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Post by msgoehring on Jun 18, 2016 3:33:03 GMT -8
OMG, I'm running into things like this that have me wishing there was an outfit like Flyte Camp, that restores these things all the time, around here. I know it would be WAY outside our budget to farm out the restoration of the windows, but man, that's a lot of super delicate hard work that has to be done.
Every single seal and gasket on every window is so old and dried out they are actually falling apart as I try to move them. The seal around the glass has actually shrunk on each window. I don't think it's a matter of wanting to do this, so much as it HAS to be done and since no one is around other than us, we have to do it.
I will definitely have your instructions up and available as we (I'm not taking this on alone anymore like I thought I could) dive into the work. Thanks so much, and trust me, if I get stuck, you may find out your sorry I have your email address (evil grin)
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Post by davek on Jun 18, 2016 14:52:13 GMT -8
If your screens are intact I would skip drilling out the rivets. Rebuilding the windows is time consuming and tedious but not really that difficult. Good luck and post some pictures when you are done. Here are mine almost done.
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Post by msgoehring on Jun 18, 2016 16:23:26 GMT -8
Most of the screens are in good condition, but there are a couple that I have to replace because they are coming apart, and that does mean drilling and replacing the rivets. I'm jealous of the finish you're getting on your window. That's what I wanted, but instead I have that funky texture. Yours look so nice, great job on them.
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 19, 2016 13:31:18 GMT -8
Just so happens I have a couple of videos dealing with this very subject. Other videos on how to rebuild and polish the push-outs also.
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