Post by highrolla7 on Jan 19, 2016 20:25:40 GMT -8
Been doing some reading and researching and figured I might have to break down and ask. I have a 71 shasta SC16 with the wet bath. The toilet had a tank attached to it, like a mini toilet found in a house. I removed the toilet, and removed the rubber gasket. The question I have is it seems like there is a badly rusted metal toilet flange (with the 2 bolts that are sticking up to attach the toilet). It looks just like a house toilet flange- only I do not see any screws. I want to replace the metal toilet gasket and not sure how it removes. Is there anybody that has removed this on this era of camper?
I really have no idea if I will be challenged on my answer or not but here goes...
If it's not broken don't fix it. Clean it up and get new bolts. They just slide in and out of the slots on the flange. Any new toilet will be able to mount to it. If the flange is broken but at least half there, a gadget exists that wraps around the old flange and completes it with itself. Ask any plumber about them. I used one once and it worked. Worst part of working on a trailer and I really prefer to work on trailers that have very minimal plumbing.
God grant me the strength to restore the trailers I can, The courage to strip the parts off the ones I can't, And the wisdom to know the difference...
Post by highrolla7 on Jan 19, 2016 21:09:00 GMT -8
I do have a one of those that I purchased when I was going to replace my toilet in the house. I bought basically all flange things that I could find, so when I was replacing, i had the right piece. For some reason, I never returned them... including this piece. I do believe that would work, the only real job it will have is to hold the toilet bolts in place.
I'll test fit and see how it goes, thanks again. The flange itself is still there, but very rusty, but mostly there. Its in very sad shape, but seems to be solid and will still hold the toilet in place, Im guessing. I'll clean it up and see whats left of it tomorrow. Im with you on the plumbing, after replacing and fixing the walls, I really dont want to tear apart all the plumbing.
Last Edit: Jan 19, 2016 21:11:10 GMT -8 by highrolla7
Mine had a black ABS plastic flange, rather than the brass flange. Replacing the closet bolts may be the easiest way to go, along with cleaning everything thoroughly, although I believe I have seen the flanges available (I'll try tracking down the sources I had tomorrow.) Mine was held down with 8 large, Philips-head screws, attached into the fiberglass floor pan.
Beneath, it was threaded with a 3" ABS pipe nipple, which turned into the flange, and into the fitting in the top of the black tank as well.
I can't say for sure the metal flange is threaded the same way, but I would suspect it is. Thus, the procedure would just be digging the screw heads out of the crud, cleaning well, remove the screws, and then turn the flange off the nipple.
If you can save it at all, try Mobil's way first. The old tanks can be brittle and break with even a little stress.
I hate working on this end of a trailer...
I have to agree. The only reason I started to take mine apart rather than remove it with a sledge was the fact it looked like it had never been used. Oh yeah, and the fact the tank was broken. The nipple is threaded into both ends underneath, so there is no room for stress. what appears to have been a good shot to the underside of the tank punched the fitting out of the top of the tank.
This is a good time for you to be able to inspect the valves, seals, and mechanisms in the working of the toilet, too. If they are suspect it is easier to replace now than to have to remove it all again.
Post by highrolla7 on Jan 20, 2016 19:59:02 GMT -8
Good info! Thanks! I do have a metal flange that is rusted, but not broken, will just need to replace the bolts. I have a picture here that shows the flange with a replacement flange that can fit over the top. With new bolts, I do believe it will last for a very long time. I plan on a new toilet, seal, etc and should work out. (I think)
Be aware there's a difference between low and high. Depends on if the toilet will be on a pedestal or not. Also Aqua Magics tend to be poorly designed/constructed. The Bravura is a much better RV toilet.
The kicker is this: the Aqua M doesn't have a solid tube from the bowl to the floor flange. So, debris splashes all over the inside of the toilet body. Yuk. The Bravura does have the tube. Do some in person research at an RV store so that you can look at the toilet. No Tube=No Buy.
Thanks for the heads up. Yes, the Shasta has a pedestal so I would go for the low. Good point on the tube, I'll have to research that- thanks again everybody for the assistance. I am truly a newbie at camper restore, but seems to be going pretty smooth. Metal removed off back and replaced framing. Confirmed all wires are good and will be replacing clearance lights... brakes/tail appear good. So, put on metal and get to insulation. Fun stuff!