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Post by nccamper on Jul 6, 2015 7:32:55 GMT -8
1962 Shasta Compact. (Thanks Ten, I should have made it clear what camper I'm working on.) This weekend I noticed a small leak at the corner of our solid rear window and was scratching my head wondering how to get the glass out and reseal it. Vikx saved the day...again! Guided me through the process. I did it with the window in. Not the way to go, but pulling the recently installed window out with fresh paint and super sticky VTS tape was not a great option. So I'll share my "Boy are you lucky photos" along with Vikx "This is how you should do it" photos. First... There are side pieces on the outside of the glass that are angled. These clip in place. Take a pick or dental tool and carefully pry them out...slowly...gently...or you will crack the glass. Work your way around putting as little pressure on the glass as possible.   You will see the glass has a thin gasket on the inside (black) that holds it in place.  image This is the tricky part. With a small thin pick or flat blade you need to gently slice the glass free from the sticky tape/ gasket. Careful not to pry or the glass will crack. This is done from the inside of the window. Much easier to do if the window is out of the camper on a flat surface. (vikx does it the right way). I would place a towel under it so the glass doesn't fall free (drop an inch) and break.  image age After 50 years in the desert my gasket was so dry it took almost no effort to get it free. If you do it with the window in the camper have a helper on the outside (gently) supporting the glass.  image Notice the welds in the corner? Make sure they sealed. If not, Vikx recommends a bit of gutter sealer.   image  image I ordered new glazing tape from Vintage Trailer Supply. Vikx says that local glass shops all carry it. www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Butyl_Glazing_Tape_p/vts-137.htmYou will have to scrape out (gently) all the old tape. Then clean with paint thinner. Then clean again. After that, clean it. If you leave any dirt or old tape behind you'll be sorry.  image New glazing tape.  image Vixk says... place the tape in the frame, spray the window with Windex (it will keep it moveable while positioning) get it in the right spot, then seal it up by placing the retaining clips back in.  image  image |
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Post by Ten on Jul 6, 2015 7:43:07 GMT -8
Just to clarify, this is the solid window in the rear of the Compact model. Thank you for putting this pictorial up NC... it beats using the special tool I own for window glass removal...  |
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Post by mobiltec on Jul 6, 2015 8:28:17 GMT -8
And of course I have a couple of videos on how to do this. I use a "spring hook" for the removal of the clips because it really makes the job easy. Vikx adds a great idea about spraying the glass with windex before re-installing the glass so that the glass is easier to position against the sticky black tape.
Part 1 youtu.be/7mA5pDLEWSM
Part 2 youtu.be/f1RpmdW1njo |
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Post by nccamper on Jul 6, 2015 8:35:10 GMT -8
Mobiltec, I looked this weekend and couldn't find the videos. They're always excellent. You make it all look easy. You need to do a bloopers video.  |
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Post by mel on Jul 6, 2015 8:50:19 GMT -8
I am really digging that we have the same camper, all your posts are going to be so helpful next summer when I get started  thanks for being so kind and sharing all your know how. |
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Post by 65callie on Jul 6, 2015 10:37:56 GMT -8
Our '62 compact didn't have the angled side pieces. Instead it had a flexible gray strip. I almost had the glass out when it broke  This is what I bought to replace the old flexible strip that holds the glass in (in addition to using the black glazing). It fits just like the original. www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Hehr_Clear_View_Window_Strip_p/vts-196.htm |
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Post by nccamper on Jul 6, 2015 11:24:56 GMT -8
Our '62 compact didn't have the angled side pieces. Instead it had a flexible gray strip. I almost had the glass out when it broke This is what I bought to replace the old flexible strip that holds the glass in (in addition to using the black glazing). It fits just like the original. www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Hehr_Clear_View_Window_Strip_p/vts-196.htmI wonder if your gray strip was actually an after market replacement put in over the years? Do you have a photo of the new VTS piece in place? |
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Post by mobiltec on Jul 6, 2015 18:09:09 GMT -8
Mobiltec, I looked this weekend and couldn't find the videos. They're always excellent. You make it all look easy. You need to do a bloopers video. In the "Trailer Tips and Tidbits" Section. I've done one bloopers vid. It was a Christmas video done a few years back when I was working on the 57 Shasta. Here's the link if you haven't seen it.
youtu.be/cRnRcDQa_t0
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Post by 65callie on Jul 7, 2015 3:47:46 GMT -8
Our '62 compact didn't have the angled side pieces. Instead it had a flexible gray strip. I almost had the glass out when it broke This is what I bought to replace the old flexible strip that holds the glass in (in addition to using the black glazing). It fits just like the original. www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Hehr_Clear_View_Window_Strip_p/vts-196.htmI wonder if your gray strip was actually an after market replacement put in over the years? Do you have a photo of the new VTS piece in place? Pretty sure it's original, probably just a different way they made them at different factories. Sounds like others have the same thing. My '65 Super also had this on the center front window. Here's the link to the thread I started when I found the matching glazing strip: vintagetrailertalk.freeforums.net/thread/71/glazing-strip-window-shasta-compact |
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Post by nccamper on Jul 7, 2015 4:10:05 GMT -8
Definitely a different window. Shasta made every camper off the line a little different, didn't they? "Hey Joe, what does that window in the corner go in? It's been laying around forever...Let's throw it in this Compact!" |
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Post by vikx on Jul 10, 2015 21:18:08 GMT -8
Great Thread NC!!
When the frame is clean, check the INside corners and seal if necessary. The window photo with the aluminum welds is out of a 71 Red Dale. I'm curious if they started doing a little more "homework" on how not to have a leaky window...
Also, the black seal is super important. That's the main leak deterrent, according to my favorite glass shop lady.
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Post by nccamper on Jul 11, 2015 5:44:33 GMT -8
Great Thread NC!! When the frame is clean, check the INside corners and seal if necessary. The window photo with the aluminum welds is out of a 71 Red Dale. I'm curious if they started doing a little more "homework" on how not to have a leaky window... Also, the black seal is super important. That's the main leak deterrent, according to my favorite glass shop lady. VIKX, explain how you would seal the corners before applying the tape. You told me in a PM but it would help a lot of people here. Best to get the info from somebody who has done it. I tried to find a glass shop in town here. The two I knew have closed. It seems like auto glass repair in NC is shifting to people working out of a van. I ordered the tape for VTS. |
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Post by vikx on Jul 11, 2015 10:39:45 GMT -8
I use Gutter Seal for the window frame. OSI from Lowes is crystal clear and a bit hard to see. Geocel has Aluminum colored gutter seal:  Any of these will work. The tubes make storage easy and a longer shelf life for the next window. I check the frame and apply a thin seal on any suspicious joints. Smoothing with a paint thinner dipped finger helps push it into any cracks while keeping the profile low and out of the way of the glass and seal. Aluminum color is also great for entry door frames. A fat bead at a bottom gap covers nicely. Smooth with paint thinner here too, but leave a little more product to fill... |
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Post by vikx on Jul 11, 2015 10:44:08 GMT -8
NOTE: When removing the metal retainers, use care! They are very difficult to replace. I pry next to the glass, but once popped, you may have better luck at the top. (next to the frame)
The retainers are replaced by placing the retainer top under the very small frame lip and curling them down toward the glass. They will "snap" in place. Hope this makes sense.
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Post by SusieQ on Jul 11, 2015 11:54:26 GMT -8
I had my window out of my Compact trailer when I resealed the glass. I ended up using gutter seal in the corners, too after I installed it. One trick I learned from another member was that gasoline will clean the black residue off that is left when the old strip of black tape is removed. Seriously, gasoline takes it off painlessly.
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thanks for being so kind and sharing all your know how. 
