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Post by mtpalms on Apr 17, 2016 21:44:33 GMT -8
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Post by mobiltec on Apr 18, 2016 6:21:55 GMT -8
It seems that I talked to them once. I think I even went out there. I have them on my Google Earth. I bet I talked to them when I was looking for Ash. I'll talk to them again to see about Birch. If they are selling the chinese stuff then I may as well go to Ganahl.
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Post by mobiltec on Apr 18, 2016 8:08:13 GMT -8
OK I talked to Josh (manager) down at Cherokee Lumber in Upland, CA. I get the same answers from him as from everyone else I talk to. No demand for 1/8 inch red birch which is what we use for our 50s and 60s canned hams.
You people need to do your part. You all need to call these places and ask for the products or they will not carry it. They can not buy less than a unit (100 sheets) and they won't do that unless they think it will sell. And that's for the Chinese stuff. If you want domestic birch made we would have to need 150 to 250 sheets or they won't make it. So demand is the biggest problem here.
Josh is going to look into it for me but I would need to find enough people in So Cal to pre-order the stuff or it won't get ordered. Other than that we are stuck with the products at Ganahl Lumber. And I'm really tired of dealing with those guys.
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Post by nccamper on Apr 18, 2016 8:54:17 GMT -8
The birch problems seems to have reached the west coast in force.
I may order 20 more sheets milled from Hood in Raleigh just to have it on hand. The problem I have with storing it in the south is mildew.
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Post by Dad Rambles on Apr 18, 2016 10:19:44 GMT -8
The birch problems seems to have reached the west coast in force. I may order 20 more sheets milled from Hood in Raleigh just to have it on hand. The problem I have with storing it in the south is mildew. Please... tell me more about this. I called Hood in Jacksonville (About an hour south of me). They told me first of all, that they could order a 300 minimum for me, even thought I wasn't a tradesperson, then they told me that they didn't have birch in the 1/8 inch. How much is it from them up your way... there is another person down my way lookin for some, I might make a trip to NC if it's worth it.
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Post by mtpalms on Apr 18, 2016 15:58:15 GMT -8
OK I talked to Josh (manager) down at Cherokee Lumber in Upland, CA. I get the same answers from him as from everyone else I talk to. No demand for 1/8 inch red birch which is what we use for our 50s and 60s canned hams. You people need to do your part. You all need to call these places and ask for the products or they will not carry it. They can not buy less than a unit (100 sheets) and they won't do that unless they think it will sell. And that's for the Chinese stuff. If you want domestic birch made we would have to need 150 to 250 sheets or they won't make it. So demand is the biggest problem here. Josh is going to look into it for me but I would need to find enough people in So Cal to pre-order the stuff or it won't get ordered. Other than that we are stuck with the products at Ganahl Lumber. And I'm really tired of dealing with those guys. My boyfriend has also been on the phone with Josh, and had a heck of a time convincing him he wasn't 'Larry'. He did put him down on a callback list regarding the birch. Trouble is, I am at the mercy of Scott's schedule, and he wants to get to get moving on this next week, which means picking up a load very soon, probably on Wednesday. If I could wait I would, but I can't.
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Post by nccamper on Apr 18, 2016 16:26:36 GMT -8
The birch problems seems to have reached the west coast in force. I may order 20 more sheets milled from Hood in Raleigh just to have it on hand. The problem I have with storing it in the south is mildew. Please... tell me more about this. I called Hood in Jacksonville (About an hour south of me). They told me first of all, that they could order a 300 minimum for me, even thought I wasn't a tradesperson, then they told me that they didn't have birch in the 1/8 inch. How much is it from them up your way... there is another person down my way lookin for some, I might make a trip to NC if it's worth it. Hood said no twice before I got somebody willing to make some effort. He called around and found a mill willing to make 1/8 birch in SC but only if I took 20 pieces sight-unseen. I ended up with around 15 perfect and 5 with knots. Not of the knotted piece I was about to use strategically. $45 a sheet. Around $900 for the lot. Knots were big: These sheets really were beautiful, but unique: I would copy this and bring it to Hood in person: It basically tells them which mill to call.
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Post by Dad Rambles on Apr 18, 2016 17:42:41 GMT -8
Please... tell me more about this. I called Hood in Jacksonville (About an hour south of me). They told me first of all, that they could order a 300 minimum for me, even thought I wasn't a tradesperson, then they told me that they didn't have birch in the 1/8 inch. How much is it from them up your way... there is another person down my way lookin for some, I might make a trip to NC if it's worth it. Hood said no twice before I got somebody willing to make some effort. He called around and found a mill willing to make 1/8 birch in SC but only if I took 20 pieces sight-unseen. I ended up with around 15 perfect and 5 with knots. Not of the knotted piece I was about to use strategically. $45 a sheet. Around $900 for the lot. Knots were big: These sheets really were beautiful, but unique: I would copy this and bring it to Hood in person: It basically tells them which mill to call. This will be a backup plan for me if the Columbia forest products order falls through. I called Friday an it hadn't come in yet. It was only 27 a sheet with no minimum. So.... Jus waiting now. Thanks for the info! Brian
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Post by Sam on Apr 19, 2016 10:07:10 GMT -8
Boulter Plywood, Somerville, MA about $25, 4x8 sheets, about6 months ago. This place has incredible variety of all kinds of plywood that you can pick over. I haven't posted here for some time, due to delay in my rebuild project, but back online and happily digging into all this again! I'm on the east coast and checked out Boulter Plywood. for a 4x8 sheet of 1/8" birch veneer it's $49. Why so darn expensive out here? SEems worth it to drive further to get a better price. Anyone know of better deals on the east coast than $49/sheet?
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Post by danrhodes on Apr 19, 2016 10:28:01 GMT -8
If there is, let me know, maybe my brother could pick some up for me, and send it out to SoCal! (He lives in omaha) Yes, I am that desperate. Where are you in SoCal? I just bought 14 sheets, half from two separate suppliers in Santa Barbara, Hayward and Channel City. Hayward has other outlets on the central coast and they had the best selection, about 40 sheets.
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Post by mtpalms on Apr 19, 2016 10:56:35 GMT -8
I live in the southeast corner, north of Palm Springs. Santa Barbara, Hayward and Channel City, is too far for me.
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Post by mobiltec on Apr 19, 2016 12:21:46 GMT -8
Boulter Plywood, Somerville, MA about $25, 4x8 sheets, about6 months ago. This place has incredible variety of all kinds of plywood that you can pick over. I haven't posted here for some time, due to delay in my rebuild project, but back online and happily digging into all this again! I'm on the east coast and checked out Boulter Plywood. for a 4x8 sheet of 1/8" birch veneer it's $49. Why so darn expensive out here? SEems worth it to drive further to get a better price. Anyone know of better deals on the east coast than $49/sheet? If it's not made in China then with what is going on these days it's worth the price. If I could find birch paneling not made in china I would be glad to pay 50 to 60 dollars a sheet. When you consider all the other time and money you are going to put into your trailer that ain't bad.
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Post by Dad Rambles on Apr 20, 2016 15:00:27 GMT -8
Alright. So, my order from Home Depot finally came in (after i called to check on it). My order was for 1 sheet of this stuff. It's (almost) and 1/8" thick and is their "radius" bending board. It's a 2 rotary cut birch veneer with a wood core/back. They sell this in 4x8 (what I bought) and 8x4. The grain and bending is the opposite on the 8x4. I figured this would be very flexible so that it would roll into a short post (vs a tall, 8ft column). You can see in the last photo that it is stout across the grain, so as to roll around the back window area. It defintely has much more structural support this way, than with the grain. This looks like it will work exactly like I was hoping, counter intuitive to what it is supposed to be bent (short ways). Long ways, this stuff REALLY wants to bend, it folds over itself when you pick it up. The grain is definitely stout. I *think* it will work, and will be a descent match for my 62 interior, although with more character. It reseambles what others have referred to as a "flame birch". The lighter parts of the wood, in between the flames, look a little yellow. I'm not sure if this will blend in or not when I put the shellac on it... looking for other's expertise here? Thoughts, concerns, experience here.. please tell me. I'm new to this stuff. I feel pretty good about this, but I need to shellac it and see how that turns out. This was 27 bucks and was special order. I will post that info later when I can find it. IMG_20160420_182200 by gunguy05, on Flickr IMG_20160420_181919 by gunguy05, on Flickr IMG_20160420_182645 by gunguy05, on Flickr
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Post by danrhodes on Apr 20, 2016 15:57:36 GMT -8
That was pretty smart to purchase the opposite bend than what you needed...looks like it will work well. With that amount of color, I wonder if you shouldn't start with clear shellac, then tint it a bit after a few coats, if needed.
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Post by Dad Rambles on Apr 20, 2016 16:28:12 GMT -8
That was pretty smart to purchase the opposite bend than what you needed...looks like it will work well. With that amount of color, I wonder if you shouldn't start with clear shellac, then tint it a bit after a few coats, if needed. I'm a little worried about the structural integrity of it on the side walls (at the ends), but then again I worry about everything. I know it's the sum of the parts, but when I compare it to the scraps of luan that I have, it's like a wet noodle in the long direction. I hadn't thought about doing the shellac that way. I was thinking stain (with the amber shellac) and then clear..... (I've used stain and spar varnish on my teardrop) But I guess the denatured alcohol will intermingle the two once applied?
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