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Post by Teachndad on Nov 1, 2014 22:05:00 GMT -8
Hi, What are people using for staple guns? Electric, hand compressed, or compressor driven? Money is an issue, so what would be the best bang for the buck? Would this one work? link Rating are very good. Thanks Rod
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Post by kirkadie on Nov 2, 2014 4:54:12 GMT -8
I found this one www.harborfreight.com/1618-gauge-3-in-1-nailerstapler-61809.html at the close-out table at my local HF for $25... a box of 5000 staples was another $20. Scotty had at least 5,000 staples seemingly randomly shot into him so I'm pretty pleased. I'm using the 1 1/2" narrow crowns in addition to 1 5/8" deck screws to fasten the horizontal 1Xs to the plywood sides. All other fastening is with the Kreg.
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Post by soup on Nov 2, 2014 14:22:14 GMT -8
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Post by schweetcruisers on Nov 2, 2014 19:57:54 GMT -8
I know someone people really love harbor freight, but as a professional I make it a point to never buy anything tools from them, I buy their work gloves, tarps and bungee cords but never tools. You now the old adage "you get what you pay for", well that rings true especially for tools. I'd only use Senco, Hitachi, or bostitch. But that's just me...
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Post by bigbill on Nov 2, 2014 20:17:42 GMT -8
schweetcruisers As a professional I own approximately 75K worth of MAC, SNAPON, Hitachi, Dewalt, and about any other brand you can think of BUT I still buy some things from Harbor Freight Simply Because they are tools that will see a limited amount of use and I have discovered that many of their tools with proper care will last for years. I hope you noticed the word many as some of their stuff is junk I examine each tool before making a purchase. I also read the specs to see how they are built. They average person rebuilding just a few trailers in his or her life probably doesn't want to or can't afford to spend ten or twenty grand just for their hobby so HF allows them to have tools that will last them for years at a price they can afford. Craftsman tools are the same way, years ago they were really good American made tools now most are Asian. Delta is another brand name that has its problems trying to compete, and the list goes on.This is why some people drive Yugos and others drive Mercedes, it all comes down to dollars and sense or lack there of.
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Post by Teachndad on Nov 2, 2014 22:43:49 GMT -8
Some good references, thanks!
Does anyone use an electric stapler without compressed air or is the preferred stapler an electric stapler driven by compressed air?
Do the manual staplers work for the needs on a vintage trailer? Just trying to find something that works on the inexpensive side.
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Post by vikx on Nov 2, 2014 23:46:31 GMT -8
I'm not familiar with an "electric stapler driven by compressed air". Air guns use an air compressor and are very efficient.
Electric staplers jam frequently. Hand held do not have enough power to drive the staples.
HITACHI are my 18 ga nail/staple guns of choice. My 22ga pin nailer is Cadex. Senco for the fine wire stapler, it's used for welting and upholstery. Good quality nails and staples make a difference for sure.
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Post by Teachndad on Nov 4, 2014 12:33:27 GMT -8
Thank you all for your responses.
What's the smallest size compressor I can use? Will 3 gallon work? I have been looking at them and ran across a reference to a filter or something that get's added inline(I think) to use when you use a staple gun. Did I get that right?
Thanks for all your help. I knew nothing about these tools and now I am trying to figure out what I need to bring forth the restoration of Andy without doing a shoddy job.
Rod
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Post by bigbill on Nov 4, 2014 14:03:59 GMT -8
Most staple guns use very little air. I would suggest at least a 3 gallon tank and 100 lbs of air at the compressor, then you will need a air pressure regulator to adjust the staplers power for the types of wood you are stapling into I range from 20 to 50 lb most of the time. Every gun is a little different, and the quality and length of your staples will make a difference. If you are stapling the aluminum skin back on too much air and you will push the staple right through the aluminum. When you first get your stapler setup try to find a piece of scrap materials to practice on. You will see how it works right away. Also learn to hold the stapler tight against what you are stapling or it won't drive the staples properly. Once you learn how to use it you will wonder how you ever lived without one. A filter is an option I don't use filters because I have a huge compressor and 3 foot high condensation tanks at every outlet, many regulators have a built in filter, but not all.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Nov 4, 2014 14:21:26 GMT -8
I use a raincoat upholstery stapler, and some bostich light framing guns too.
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Post by vikx on Nov 4, 2014 22:58:05 GMT -8
Senco makes a 1 gal compressor that is very quiet. More than enough air power for nailers and staplers. I use mine every day and have never run out of air. SENCO PC1010 1 HP 1 gal...
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Post by Teachndad on Nov 4, 2014 23:27:18 GMT -8
:)Great thread, BTW. Very helpful. What size is recommended for the staples?. Do the staple guns take any size, or do you have to have a staple gun that fits a certain size staple in length and width? Thanks. I don't know what's more fun, knowing you get to buy toys to fix your trailer, or working on fixing your trailer.  Pay day is tomorrow! Cheers  Rod
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Post by vikx on Nov 5, 2014 0:03:17 GMT -8
My stapler is 1/4" crown, 18 gauge. 1/2" or 3/4" in length. The combo stapler/nailer is also 18 gauge, which is a common size.
5/8 brads for thin stock up to 1/ 1/2 to 2", depending on the gun. Length depends on how thick the framing is.
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