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Post by mrssilvermountan on Jul 6, 2014 18:22:31 GMT -8
Has anyone installed one of these in your trailer? How dose it work? Did you use a gas or electric model?
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Post by universalexports on Jul 6, 2014 19:07:37 GMT -8
I have an echotemp on demand water heater, it is propane powered but requires 110volt to operate but it only pulls about 3 watts of electric, but I have not installed it yet sorry.
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Post by kto17 on Jul 6, 2014 19:41:43 GMT -8
We have the eccotemp L5 in our Shasta Deluxe. It's great once you get it dialed in at the campsite. If the campground has good water pressure it's awesome! If they have low water pressure you may need to run off a fresh water tank and pump. They require a certain amount of water pressure and flow or they stop heating for safety reasons.
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Post by chametzoo on Jul 6, 2014 19:54:33 GMT -8
I have a Vaillant Mag 125 on demand that runs on LP. No electric components. I believe Vaillant is a British company. These heaters, I hear, were used in Airstreams in the 60's 70's. I had to replace the pressure activating rubber diaphragm, which I bought on eBay from the UK for about $15 and now it works great. Light the pilot and it automatically lights the heating jets when the hot spigot is opened. Produces 150 degree water. This is a rather old model, but if it's clean and simple wearable parts are updated, will work well. Mine does not have the overheat protection, as in the above post, which is why you can't get parts for it in the US.
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Post by vikx on Jul 7, 2014 22:48:28 GMT -8
The TOO COOL VAILLANT: Courtesy of Canasta, 57 Deluxe.
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Post by chametzoo on Jul 8, 2014 5:42:06 GMT -8
The TOO COOL VAILLANT: Yes... That's exactly the one I've got. COOL but makes very HOT water! Mine is inside the trailer partially concealed in a kitchen cabinet. I only light it when a hot shower is needed.
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Post by vikx on Jul 8, 2014 9:45:41 GMT -8
Canasta had a special compartment behind the stove. The PO instructions said the door had to be open to use the Vaillant...
I was very surprised with the gas system in the Deluxe. The refrigerator and heater were vented thru the roof but used inside air for combustion. I added a blocking board for the refer exhaust. The stove also used inside air, and the Vaillant some, especially with the compartment door closed. An accident waiting to happen in my book. I guess nobody every died from Shasta CO problems, maybe the jalousie windows leaked enough fresh air? Installed a CO detector for sure!
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Post by txoil on Jul 9, 2014 6:53:46 GMT -8
We have a Marey 5.0 Liter/minute propane on demand heater in our Shasta...very pleased with it!
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Post by Hamlet on Jul 9, 2014 8:23:15 GMT -8
I think Hamlet's is the same as big bill's. It works very well. It is probably not going to be adequate for anyone doing winter camping where the water coming into it is less than about 40 degrees. It does let you choose between winter and summer settings, so is able to allow for some difference in ambient water temperature, but in the northeast, it may not have enough oomph. That being said, we love ours. It provides wonderful, warm showers from either the tank or "city" water, and the hose from the shower stretches to the kitchen sink in our Compact, and that's an extra bonus.
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Post by kto17 on Jul 9, 2014 8:28:01 GMT -8
My understanding of the Vaillant is that it was the original in the Shasta Deluxe model. I was told because it can from Europe after WWII the metal was thin and poor quality so they rusted out very quickly. Don't know how true that is, but sounded believable. Our 61 Deluxe fridge uses inside air with a common vent in the floor for the gravity furnace and fridge. They both exhaust through the roof. The water heater is in an outside compartment separated by galvanized metal from the inside of the trailer. I believe this was a change made to the 1961 model year because the outside access door got bigger in 61. It is a louvered door and there is no roof vent. You know you are obsessed when you notice little things like that....
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Post by vikx on Jul 9, 2014 9:30:24 GMT -8
Gosh, that old Vaillant fired right up and looked great inside... Really seemed to be good quality. The door was louvered, no metal between the back of the stove and the Vaillant, just plywood. It did have sort of a built in compartment, but definitely not isolated. A PO drilled holes in the floor, if you look closely.
I have the manual if anybody needs it.
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Post by txoil on Jul 9, 2014 14:00:16 GMT -8
The photo of the Vailant appears to be the same unit that our Deluxe came with, but I certainly did not trust it and it was the first thing to be pulled out and scrapped. The PO said he could never get to stay lit or work properly, and replacing was an easy fix.
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Post by chametzoo on Jul 9, 2014 18:49:47 GMT -8
Dunno…. Like Vikx, my ol' Vailant works like new….
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Post by vikx on Jul 9, 2014 22:05:28 GMT -8
Kind of a funny story: Canasta's new owners visited a local rally to check her out. They loved the trailer and I mentioned the Vaillant hadn't been tested yet; that I would replace with an electric on demand if it didn't. (nowadays the gas units are affordable, they weren't then) The buyers said NO! Keep the beautiful Vaillant, even if it doesn't work.
Lucky for all of us, the Vaillant passed with flying colors. What a roar when she fired up!
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Post by vikx on Apr 19, 2015 21:11:34 GMT -8
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