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Post by diymom on Jun 22, 2014 20:42:07 GMT -8
Ok- so after my first experience with shellack I am infused with agony over the white and yellow paint on my cabinetry. The luster of shellack on a new piece of birch is something like seeing your first chocolate souffle come out of the oven - tantilizing.
I was wondering if I can use paint stripper on the cabinets, sand them and then shellack, or if its more complicated than that. Has anyone ever removed the paint successfully?
Also was wondering about where the heck to get formica-all the cool types that people are using now- they have to come from somewhere...I currently have this hideous dark green surface and I long for a brighter, more era appropriate counter top.
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Post by vikx on Jun 22, 2014 22:18:07 GMT -8
Double posts will be deleted... The paint can be stripped if the cabinets are fairly smooth. If they have grooves or high grain, the paint will be difficult to lift. The doors can be rebuilt. It's worth a try if you're patient. Try Wilsonart for laminate. And there's some cool stuff here: barsandbooths.com/retro-furniture/retro-laminate/ Not Cheap: $350 per is the norm
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Post by diymom on Jun 22, 2014 23:31:58 GMT -8
DIdn't know I double posted...my computer is slow...and I'm impatient-maybe I clicked twice? sorry
I have seen a trailer with those boomerang design counter-tops before...so thats where they got them. I found 2 wilsonart dealers within 5 miles of my house! I am calling them tomorrow-lets hope its a lot cheaper than the boomerang stuff- thanks for the info- hopefully they have something bright in stock...like turquoise! I have to figure out where to get sheet aluminum...
I am worried by the time we spruce this piggy trailer up- we'll want to keep it. I have to keep reminding myself-I want an upper bunk, heater, fridge and a bathroom-and maybe a window in the door in my forever trailer-plus no termites and wood rot.
I'll try stripper on a spot to see how funky the grain is.
would it be very awful to use adhesive veneer? its really pricy- I doubt we would invest in such a way anyway... but its just so crazy they have adhesive veneer at ganahl lumber
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Post by ladywendolyn on Jun 22, 2014 23:42:46 GMT -8
You can reface the cabinets with birch.. If you have experience with wood working. It's a bit complicated to explain it on here, but I have refaced cabinets by using 1/2 inch solid birch on the fronts, and letting it extend past the edges by 1/4 inch and putting 1/4 inch plywood on the sides and bottom with the raw edges hidden by the front facing. Not sure if that makes sense... If not, then probably not something to try, but stripping and sanding is worth a shot... And just have new cabinet doors cut and routered. It will look great.
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Post by portajohn on Jun 23, 2014 5:10:47 GMT -8
Hi diymom, I think I m ay be the double poster.. The reply to your question was a copy of a previous post. (side note.. does anyone know how to link to another post in a reply?) Thats what I was trying to do when replying to your post, but after 20 min still no luck. Anyway, take a look at my recent posts (on the about me post).. It tells you how to see the Wilson Art retro offerings.. I believe they cost around 160 per sheet. Good luck!
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Post by diymom on Jun 23, 2014 8:16:17 GMT -8
so nobody has tried to strip painted cabinets?
Refacing the cabinets seems like a quick way to ensure the quality of the cabinets, but it likely would cost a ton more than I want to spend-I want to at least try stripping the paint & then sanding it down. Its the cheapest way I can think of to possibly accomplish the results I want-
I cannot track down anyone who sells wilsonart sheets of laminate to the public! everyone says home depo-but they don't carry the recovering sheets and won't order them-besides- dealing with the big box stores is awful! Just called Wilsonart and they said its only available commercially-new product- So what does everyone else do for their counters? buy laminate on mdf and install? I feel like a moron not being able to find something to use on my countertop!
ugh!
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Post by cheri on Jun 23, 2014 11:01:14 GMT -8
Hi, I am also stuck on the cupboards in my trailer. After replacing the original vinyl covered hard board ceiling and nasty panelling with shellacked birch , I really would like birch cabinets as well, even though there was no birch at all in my camper to begin with. After spending months fixing stuff no one sees, I decided to paint the existing cabinets, put on new hinges and leave the cabinet replacement until the winter. I couldn't find any pictures of birch walls with painted cabinets, but I need to have her in useable condition by the end of July, and there is still a lot to do. So, I found paint in a ginger color that looks ok with the birch, bought a counter top from a big box store and put the cabinets back in. I can use her this way this summer and rebuild the cabinets over the winter. It really doesn't look too bad for now. (My cabinets were not birch and refinishing really wasn't an option.) Cheri Before Now
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Post by diymom on Jun 23, 2014 21:35:14 GMT -8
ahh, isn't shellacked birch captivating? I am so glad you are transforming your trailer into a more beautiful version of itself! Good for you!
I think if you reface your cabinetry like mentioned earlier in birch-it would work out well- you don't seem to have any curves on the edges to deal with-could be really easy- just a lot of cutting holes or strips. as for the drawers, maybe you could remove the face of the drawer and have something made thats less boxy on the edges out of birch (round the edges). I think it would look really nice!
once you cap retro looking counters with stainless molding-nobody will know your interior was such a droll, sad look before-they'll think all your hard work is original to the trailer-I guess its a good thing!
Putting my shellacked stove/dinette division panel in tomorrow- I forgot to buy finishing nails today!!! I am realllllllllllllllllllly excited! I don't care that the corner of the cabinet is still going to be white- with the trim piece on the edge and the aluminum sheet base for the stove shelf-its going to look 100% better than the hacked junk that was there before.
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Post by vikx on Jun 23, 2014 22:39:34 GMT -8
DIYmom: I've not had a good summer with veneer and don't recommend it for a novice. Mine has been a pain, to say the least.
Try stripping a door and see how it goes. My apologies for the disconcerting reply on double posts.
Thank you, Portajohn for replying. Posting the same thing over and over isn't necessary...just right click on the URL at the very top of the page and choose "copy". Then paste into your post. The link will be there.
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Post by txoil on Jun 24, 2014 6:03:58 GMT -8
It is wonderful to see so many folks replacing drab, painted wood with glowing, warm amber shellac covered birch!! THAT is how these canned hams were meant to look and there is NOTHING like the inviting amber glow of a birch interior lit up at night!!
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Post by vikx on Jun 24, 2014 22:07:38 GMT -8
Ah TXoil, a Cat after my own heart....
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Post by swirlygirls on Jun 25, 2014 3:57:22 GMT -8
My Oasis had painted cabinets and I naively jumped in to remove the paint. Many hours later I was able to remove it from the doors but not from the cabinets. It just wouldn't come out and left faint yellow and pink tones (old paint). I gave up in disgust and had a talented friend help me with veneer. We covered the cabinets but not the doors or drawer fronts. They look good but let me tell you, it was really challenging especially around the curved edges. I agree with Vikx that it's not for a novice, my friend had a lot of experience. Good luck.
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 25, 2014 12:51:03 GMT -8
so nobody has tried to strip painted cabinets? Refacing the cabinets seems like a quick way to ensure the quality of the cabinets, but it likely would cost a ton more than I want to spend-I want to at least try stripping the paint & then sanding it down. Its the cheapest way I can think of to possibly accomplish the results I want- I cannot track down anyone who sells wilsonart sheets of laminate to the public! everyone says home depo-but they don't carry the recovering sheets and won't order them-besides- dealing with the big box stores is awful! Just called Wilsonart and they said its only available commercially-new product- So what does everyone else do for their counters? buy laminate on mdf and install? I feel like a moron not being able to find something to use on my countertop! ugh! I just don't buy trailers that are painted inside so I don't have that problem to deal with. But as far as the formica is concerned, this is one of the items that requires a lot of research. It used to be a lot easier than it is now but so many manufacturers have quit making the retro stuff it has become next to impossible. The last formica I bought cost $600 a roll and I only used enough for one trailer. I didn't like the stuff anyhow but $600 a roll is a bit much. But that's nothing compared to $400 per 8 foot sheet. WOWZERS! That's what you are going to pay for anything that even resembles retro. Boomerang for instance. I still have one sheet left of the aqua marine and I'm not sure which trailer I'm going to use it in but I'm hanging on to it. You couldn't buy it from me for $500 because it can not be replaced. It's not getting any easier to find the stuff we want folks and I believe that the manufactures are not willing to tool up to make the stuff either because they feel that this is just a fad and about the time they tool up and get the stuff made the fad will be history. I agree with that theory. This "bubble" will not last. I think it will settle down eventually to the way things were before. I believe that because basically people are lazy. There is way too much work involved in this type of hobby for most people. I'd say 90% of the people who contact me never finish their trailer. I just received yet another email this morning from a person who had been working on a Deville for the last two years and has given up. She said come see it quick if I want to because it's getting stripped next week. What a waste.....
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Post by cheri on Jun 25, 2014 13:12:24 GMT -8
Ok, I have to confess. I do really like some painted interiors. My trailer was nasty when I got her. She was painted baby blue with high gloss royal blue trim. The ceiling and front and back walls were vinyl covered hard board. I didn't even take a picture before I toned that down with cream and carmel colored paint. While I couldn't stand that blue paint job, I would have been happy to just replace everything with lauan and paint it in neutral colors. I asked my husband his opinion, and he thought the birch would look better. Once I started shellacking, I fell in love with the wood but.... I do like the light and airy feeling that some of the painted trailers have. In my case, I am replacing fake wood paneling and a counter top and table that are not original. I'm not really doing a restoration, more of a rehab. This is probably a good thing as the trailer is going to be infested with teenagers at the county fair in July. I think I would be afraid to use one of the beautifully restored trailers I see here. As I may have the only Vanbrook trailer in existence, there is nothing to compare with anyway. Just my two cents. Cheri
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Post by mobiltec on Jun 25, 2014 13:40:51 GMT -8
And I accept that a lot of people are just looking for a nice little trailer to use. Be it a vintage trailer or not. And as Bill pointed out some people like the paint inside. I don't have a problem with that at all. My tastes dictate that I stay away from them is all. That way I don't have to strip paint of cabinets. The other problem I have with interior paint is that a lot of flippers are using paint to hide the rot. Of course it would never get by most of us anyhow but a lot of them do that.
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