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Post by jimrockford on May 29, 2014 6:09:54 GMT -8
I just picked up a 15 ft fleetwood resort for a good price, had some rot in the back and I've about got that all repaired , what a job but now I know what I have and its all good.  |
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Post by pathfinder3081 on May 29, 2014 6:44:00 GMT -8
That's a fun looking rig! Welcome to the forum. Those models really packed in the amenities too. Some did anyway. I was looking a late 78 or 80 "Scotty" a year or two ago and it slipped away. Vintage? Retro? or Antique?... Opinions vary. (and we have alot of them here)  I say it depends on which coast your closest too as well. Forum members on the West coast call Vintage at “pre 65”.. O_oHere on the east Coast? Central and South anyway. We are not as strict as we don't have many super old ones around. I go 70 and back as Vintage. After 70, it’s a retro. 75, 76 to the early 80’s. I say it’s cool find! Thanks for sharing and again  |
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Post by universalexports on May 29, 2014 7:42:41 GMT -8
vintage is very subjective, there is not a set date, some say a 70 or 80's camper is just old not vintage, I guess it comes down to when a camper is old enough to be considered a survivor after most of it's brothers and sisters have been sent to the bone yard. personally I say vintage is 60's or earlier.
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Post by bigbill on May 29, 2014 7:45:32 GMT -8
Welcome to the board. The answer to your question call it Vintage, retro, antique, New or what ever you want to call it because it just doesn't matter. The important thing is you have it at a price that suited you, now all you have to do is use it every chance you get and have a great time creating many great memories.
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Post by bigbill on May 29, 2014 7:59:33 GMT -8
Dictionary answers: per Webster
Vintage is the gathering of the grape crop. The word is normally used to tell what year the crop was gathered and the wine made, such as vintage 2014 or vintage 1955.
Retro means back or came before.
Antique is anything old or an ancient relic, although many people claim anything over twenty-five years old is an antique.
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Post by John Palmer on May 29, 2014 18:33:22 GMT -8
To be Vintage it needs to have "real wood" paneling. By the late 1960's, or early 1970's paneling was done by an adhesive photo paper.
Something needs to become old and undesirable, before it becomes Vintage.
For example, I'm still "old and undesirable", but "waiting to become Vintage".
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Post by vikx on May 29, 2014 23:14:44 GMT -8
Vintage is 50s and early 60s to me. Retro into the mid and late 60s. I stop naming them if newer.
That being said, I love all small trailers and find some of the *new* retro styles really cool.
ALL ARE WELCOME HERE.
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Post by cowcharge on Jun 19, 2014 23:32:47 GMT -8
I tell people that I belong to a group that repairs old trailers. I don't think I've ever used the word "vintage" in a live conversation about campers, because IMHO, terms like that, when used to diminish someone's huge effort and expense simply because their camper isn't old enough to suit someone else, i.e. "that '76 isn't vintage (you peasant)" are just irrelevant, and pretentious. Like people who run for office in a HOA.
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Post by John Palmer on Jun 20, 2014 8:23:36 GMT -8
Maybe we are trying to answer the "wrong question"? The better question to consider would be, "How old does a trailer need to be, before you have any hope in recouping your labor and parts investment in the current market"?
All trailer's are very labor intensive. When you order expensive replacement parts, they will fit any year. But the largest thing that affects resale value is the age, and/or the size of the trailer.
By the late 1960's to early 1970's, it will be harder to recoup your investment. I'm sure this will change as time goes by.
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Post by vikx on Jun 20, 2014 21:28:41 GMT -8
SIZE is a big deal. For instance, the little trailer above is only 15 feet and light enough to tow with many vehicles. I believe the little trailer craze started as gas prices went up, folks were looking for better mileage towing a camper. As trailers get bigger (and newer), they begin to seem long and old to me. I've seen some really nice big ones, don't get me wrong, but the little trailers are more in demand.
With the extent of repairs some of us do, I agree with John that picking a trailer with good resale value is important.
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Post by txoil on Jun 21, 2014 7:04:47 GMT -8
I went thru this same process in the 90's when the 50's soda machine craze happened. Everyone wanted the Vendo 44 and 56 and Vendolator 44 models because they were 'cute' and small. Machines built 1959 or later, because they had square corner cabinets were not as desirable and could not be given away, but it cost the same $$$ to restore a 60's square corner machine as it did to restore a late 50's round corner one. People were willing to drop 5-8K on a particular machine and then condescend to someone who owned a square corner version of the same machine that the later model just wasn't "vintage". Snobs will always try to justify their purchase at the expense of others.
Enjoy your trailer no matter what year it is. Have fun. GO CAMPING!
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Post by bigbill on Jun 21, 2014 10:21:41 GMT -8
I wish the word VINTAGE was not used by people that have no idea what it means, Vintage is just another word for model year, a 2014 trailer is vintage 2014. It was used by people trying to add value to things that were special but had no other defining classification and people have been trying to add to it ever since. It gained popularity among wine tasters and since it was used to describe fine wines and tell the year of processing. People associated it with something valuable so it has been used on everything now as a way to make everything seem special. I am vintage so I guess that makes me special.  |
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Post by vikx on Jun 21, 2014 21:44:37 GMT -8
You ARE special, Big Bill.
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Post by 54campin on Jun 22, 2014 6:47:56 GMT -8
Pretty sure my kids think 90s is vintage lol...For me, I'd say vintage is anything that seems old and cool to me. I've collected some 'vintage' stuff from the 20s era to the 80s era although it might just be 'old' and not 'vintage'' to some folks ...I like old trucks but I've heard older people than me ask why do u wanna waste your time and $ fixing up an old pickup truck. To each their own I say : )
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 19:28:34 GMT -8
I think the post about us answering the wrong question might be right, but might not have hit the nail on the head. The site is called "Vintage trailer Talk" and upon buying my 1970 Shasta, I wondered... Does this site consider my camper vintage enough to join? I didn't see it in the rules. I also own a '74 Monte Carlo and the same conversation revolves around it whether it is "really" a classic and some sites (and to wit some camper clubs) only "allow" entry if you are only old enough. I know now from reading that all are welcome here and it is a great group, but I bet many had this same question. I am glad to see that kind of elitism and segregation doesn't exist here.
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