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Post by Flat-Tire on Feb 27, 2014 16:25:36 GMT -8
I have determined that the roof sheet metal is toast. I have seen Mobiltec's 6 part mini-series; Cool!
It's very tough finding skins in south Florida, err, impossible. I will certainly have to order. Any way, is it imperative to incorporate S-locks into the run at the front & rear windows? Since I'm goin' whole-hog, why worry about measurements for S-lock locations? I want a 7 X 19 foot; hold the S-locks.
On a related topic, the metal pattern bends are not typical (to me). Every 1 5/8 inch, there is a bend in the opposite direction. It's not a Yoder, Mesa, or Endo. So when I order, it will not match the sides. If I install smooth skin, there will not be a chance of expansion/contraction.
I look forward to your feedback. Thanks.
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Post by John Palmer on Feb 27, 2014 18:44:12 GMT -8
I have done it both ways on canned hams. Seamed at the windows with "S" locks (I still call them Pittsburg seams) and a 21 foot one piece "front bumper to rear bumper" single sheet from a Utility truck trailer repair company.
The problem is, that none of these trailer's is anywhere close to being built accurate. They all have high and low spots. The longer the piece of metal is the more issues you will have with "puckers" from compound curves at the ends. The advantage you will have doing it with the "S" lock seams is that it will be much easier to get it to lay down smoothly.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 27, 2014 20:53:48 GMT -8
The only other way to do it is with lap joints which means a bunch of screws along the seam. The nice thing about the S Locks or Pittsburg Locks is that no fasteners are visible because the lower sections slide up in to the already fastened upper section. The other good thing is that there is less of a chance for leakage down the road. Watch more videos and read some more about skin application before you make any decisions on this. It's all been tried and done and every decision comes with consequences and the best time to find out about them is before you spend your money.
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Post by slider on Feb 28, 2014 6:23:45 GMT -8
I'm also on the hunt for al roofing in the SE, going to try some cargo trailer and tractor trailer body repair and parts/supply places. Ive also seen someone suggest gutter shops but the gutter installers usually have rolls about 12-14" wide, but I guess those rolls are slit from something wider.
Of course there are rv supply places on line that you can buy from and a few get very good reviews on here.
I will post on the forums if I find an alternative source.
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Post by John Palmer on Feb 28, 2014 9:58:17 GMT -8
I'm also on the hunt for al roofing in the SE, going to try some cargo trailer and tractor trailer body repair and parts/supply places. Ive also seen someone suggest gutter shops but the gutter installers usually have rolls about 12-14" wide, but I guess those rolls are slit from something wider. Of course there are rv supply places on line that you can buy from and a few get very good reviews on here. I will post on the forums if I find an alternative source.
Here's my "take" on Semi Trailer Roof material.
The GOOD. I would assume since semi trucks are used nationally, and they tend to get beat up on a regular basis, you will find truck trailer repair shops widely spread across the nation. They sell .040" aluminum roofing skin that's 103" wide from a roll "by the foot". The last time I purchased this material was about two and a half years ago. I have done two trailer's with this material. The first was a 5' by 10' "king sized" tear drop. The second trailer was a 13' Aljoa with a one piece front bumper to back bumper roof. The material cost was about $15 per foot (in 2011), pretty cheap by the foot, when you consider that it's 103" wide. The .040" thickness is just slightly thicker than the common .030" RV skin material. But it's very soft, and was very easy to "hand cut", and to bend over for edges. My stapler when right through the .040" thickness.
The BAD. Truck repair shops are not into "things looking good". They will scratch the crap out of your metal as they take it off their roll and re-roll it for you. The second time I purchased it, I talked to the counter guy and asked if I could help cut and roll it. I brought along a roll of duck tape and "taped the first cut end" so it would not scratch the metal. It also helped to bring two "flat pad" vise grips to clamp the ends. The other problem was they want to stab it with a fork lift and drive it out to your truck, which puts more dings into the new metal. I talked them into "hand carrying it out". The quality of the material is "cosmetically" poor and not consistent like RV skin. Not a big deal on the top of a tall semi truck, but it looks like poop on the front and rear of a canned ham roof curves. I tried to polish it out, and the poor quality just has too many pits to really shine nicely. I ended up sanding it to 220/400/600/1000 then polishing with emery, and then aluminum polish.
It's a viable alterative, likely widely available, the cost savings was not worth the extra work, and likely I would use it again ONLY AS A LAST RESORT.
John
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Post by Flat-Tire on Feb 28, 2014 18:04:07 GMT -8
My quote from All-rite was over $1400 plus shipping and the pattern would not match the side skins. I'm all in for the truck trailer product since I'll be painting it anyway and I think I can duplicate the crease manually with extra patiences. I just have to figure out how to make the S-locks but it will only be 20 inches up front and about 48 in back.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 28, 2014 18:22:47 GMT -8
My quote from All-rite was over $1400 plus shipping and the pattern would not match the side skins. I'm all in for the truck trailer product since I'll be painting it anyway and I think I can duplicate the crease manually with extra patiences. I just have to figure out how to make the S-locks but it will only be 20 inches up front and about 48 in back. I'm guessing that Hemet Valley Rv would be about half that including the shipping. I wouldn't bother trying to replicate that pattern but you could email Steve the photos and if his machine does it he will. I would go smooth or 4 inch brakes.
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Post by John Palmer on Feb 28, 2014 19:33:41 GMT -8
My quote from All-rite was over $1400 plus shipping and the pattern would not match the side skins. I'm all in for the truck trailer product since I'll be painting it anyway and I think I can duplicate the crease manually with extra patiences. I just have to figure out how to make the S-locks but it will only be 20 inches up front and about 48 in back. Just buy a roof made "to your size requirements" from Hemet Valley RV, and have them finish the ends with the "S" locks. It's best to position the front/rear "S" lock seams at the windows.
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