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Post by jannica on Jan 19, 2014 19:01:18 GMT -8
Ok, I may just apply new tile over the old. I will see what the floor really looks like when I remove one of the lower pieces of paneling so I can tell if any of the floor needs to be replaced. Hopefully not. I found some cool new vinyl tiles on this site: www.modularitytiles.com I'm hoping to find something there that will work.
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Post by kirkadie on Jan 19, 2014 20:25:09 GMT -8
If the floor ply has seperated unfortunately you'll probably want to replace it. There is really no way to halt the creep of moisture once that's happened. Looking at the pictures of the exposed back and bottom suggest some problem, no? I am surprised to see what looks like a plywood side wall. I thought only Scottys and Scotsman used that instead of 1X framing.
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Post by jannica on Jan 19, 2014 20:31:16 GMT -8
What you're seeing isn't the side wall, it's the plywood curbing that goes around the outside of the paneling for the j-rail to screw into. The main frame is solid wood but you can't see it in the pic I posted. The main damage is to the curbing and the paneling I think. Also the corner of the frame is rotted but only the very end bit. I think the floor may be ok but I just can't tell for sure until I remove the panel and get a better look at it. I'll post some more pics once I get to that step. Hopefully I'll get to it next weekend.
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Post by jannica on Jan 24, 2014 11:03:31 GMT -8
Hi all, I have another picture to share with additional questions! I forgot I had taken this picture of the undercarriage before I replaced the leaf springs. You can clearly see that the metal frame is bent upward right under the spot where the floor is cracked. I also noticed that the metal beam has come loose from the crossbeam on the other side of the wheel (you can't see it in this picture). Should I have a new piece welded that is straight and then replace the floor? Other than the crack, the floor is in pretty good shape. I would like to have the metal beams attached to a bumper in the rear, so I might have to get a new piece made anyway. Thoughts?? The trailer now sits level since I have new leaf springs on it, but obviously the slight bend in the frame is not good and the floor is still bowed/cracked in that one spot. I am not sure how crucial it is to fix, so I'm hoping you guys can give me some advice again.
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Post by John Palmer on Jan 24, 2014 12:09:13 GMT -8
Hi all, I have another picture to share with additional questions! I forgot I had taken this picture of the undercarriage before I replaced the leaf springs. You can clearly see that the metal frame is bent upward right under the spot where the floor is cracked. I also noticed that the metal beam has come loose from the crossbeam on the other side of the wheel (you can't see it in this picture). Should I have a new piece welded that is straight and then replace the floor? Other than the crack, the floor is in pretty good shape. I would like to have the metal beams attached to a bumper in the rear, so I might have to get a new piece made anyway. Thoughts?? The trailer now sits level since I have new leaf springs on it, but obviously the slight bend in the frame is not good and the floor is still bowed/cracked in that one spot. I am not sure how crucial it is to fix, so I'm hoping you guys can give me some advice again.
That is NOT good, you need to talk to a welder and get the frame repaired before you do anything with the floor.
It was a common way for the manufacturers to "save money" in production to end the frame at the rear shackle. It's wise to extend the frame to the rear for support, and/or be able to add accessories like corner stabilizers, or a bicycle receiver rack mount. All of this is much easier with the body off of the trailer, but it's possible to do with the body on the trailer, just more time consuming.
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Post by jannica on Jan 24, 2014 12:13:23 GMT -8
Thanks John, that's what I was afraid you would say. I don't want to remove the whole body from the trailer, I'm afraid that would be difficult since I don't have the right equipment. I am going to see if a welder who my neighbor recommended can come to my house and do the work where the trailer is currently sitting. We'll see what he says. Either way, I was going to have to call him to add the bumper and fix the propane tank holder, so I guess this will just be an additional thing to fix while he's at it.
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Post by bigbill on Jan 24, 2014 13:53:33 GMT -8
A person who knows what is doing can take a chain, a beam and a jack and straighten that frame work in short order. If your welder can't fix it contact a repair shop that straightens frames, having it straightened will be much faster and less expensive than tearing trailer apart. I have straighten many frames bent much worse than that.
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Post by jannica on Jan 24, 2014 15:02:34 GMT -8
I already know a place that straightens frames, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to take it there because the trailer is all taken apart at the moment and I don't want to put it back together just to take it over there. I wonder if they make house calls? haha I guess it doesn't hurt to ask. I will check with the welder first.
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Post by mobiltec on Jan 24, 2014 17:12:35 GMT -8
What Bill said. The tools for straightening frames are portable. I bet you can find someone to come out to your house. If I were you I would go ask in person...
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Post by bigbill on Jan 24, 2014 18:08:03 GMT -8
Yes and take a few pictures with you.
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Post by jannica on Jan 25, 2014 7:45:40 GMT -8
What Bill said. The tools for straightening frames are portable. I bet you can find someone to come out to your house. If I were you I would go ask in person... Haha I was thinking the same thing. I'll be sure to look extra cute when I go ask, that usually helps!
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Post by bigbill on Jan 25, 2014 8:06:17 GMT -8
jannica Quote I'll be sure to look extra cute when I go ask, that usually helps! That's not fair, us ugly old men can't do that.
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Post by jannica on Jan 25, 2014 8:07:46 GMT -8
Hey being a girl does have its advantages sometimes, what can I say!
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Post by jannica on Jan 26, 2014 8:44:13 GMT -8
Update: I got a welder to come over and look at my frame yesterday. He's going to fabricate a new piece to replace the bent one. He's also going to add some additional metal beams to the existing ones so that they extend all the way to the rear of the camper in order for me to add a bumper. He's coming over next weekend, I'm excited! He's charging me $200 for parts and labor. I don't know if that's a good price or not, but considering I can't weld anything myself, I'll take it.
Also, I've decided to pull out the asbestos tiles today. I figured I might as well since I may need to replace some of the wood in order to level the floor. I know it's going to be a huge pain, but I'm hoping I can get it all done today. Wish me luck!
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Post by Hamlet on Jan 26, 2014 10:38:47 GMT -8
Good luck! Just remember to keep the dust down and wear a mask.
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