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Post by tbish on Sept 28, 2021 8:21:40 GMT -8
Good day, I’m having some trouble rebuilding a entry door for my shasta. It’s a 1960 Shasta and the door that is on now is a makeshift door that the old owner built.
I guess my question is what do you use for trim that goes around the door, is it just aluminum T or h trim? And is there any trim that goes around that door frame it self, like aluminum L?
Also on the inside of the door frame, should there be a door stop that the door closes on?
Thanks for any help, having a hard time finding any info.
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Post by vikx on Sept 28, 2021 10:15:54 GMT -8
Older Shastas had h trim with aluminum trim on the door frame. I had some made at a local metal shop for my Cardinal door. Scroll down to the door build in this album: 58cardinal.shutterfly.com/pictures/477 In the middle.
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Post by nccamper on Sept 28, 2021 13:09:27 GMT -8
I've done it several times. You'll find some photos here... And a tutorial on making your own trim without a metal break here...
But it's easier to rent a metal break (home depot tool rental) for $50. Some photos of doing it with a break can be found here...
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Post by carlc on Oct 5, 2021 17:56:51 GMT -8
nccamper,
In the photos where you used a break machine, on the inside of the door (latch side) it looks like a double bend where one end goes on outside of trailer and the other bend serves as the stop for the screen door. The bend that serves as a stop, it looks rounded. How did you do that? I am going to rent a brake from HD and use the spare siding I have left over. I just don't know how to round off that inside piece so I don't cut everyone as they enter the trailer.
Also, how and where did you attach the H and L pieces on the door? I don't see any screws on that masterpiece.
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Post by carlc on Oct 5, 2021 18:01:51 GMT -8
nccamper, In the photos where you used a break machine, on the inside of the door (latch side) it looks like a double bend where one end goes on outside of trailer and the other bend serves as the stop for the screen door. The bend that serves as a stop, it looks rounded. How did you do that? I am going to rent a brake from HD and use the spare siding I have left over. I just don't know how to round off that inside piece so I don't cut everyone as they enter the trailer. Also, how and where did you attach the H and L pieces on the door? I don't see any screws on that masterpiece. Nevermind on the first question. I should have watched some tutorials first. I see you just make a hem and close it up. Still curious about the attaching of the pieces to the door.
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Post by nccamper on Oct 5, 2021 18:43:32 GMT -8
how and where did you attach the H and L pieces on the door? I don't see any screws on that masterpiece. Nevermind on the first question. I should have watched some tutorials first. I see you just make a hem and close it up. Still curious about the attaching of the pieces to the door. The H pieces attached to the door with the flat nail. Originally they were screw type nails Which kept in place better. One nail and every foot up the door. The nail sit on the inside of the door frame (jam) so that they don’t show on either side of the door. Hopefully this makes sense.
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Post by carlc on Oct 10, 2021 18:55:48 GMT -8
nccamper, The handbrake rental worked out well. I tried to follow your pics best I could. I have a couple questions: 1. It rained the night after I finished the door and water got in the trailer. It seems that water came from the roof (I don't have the drip cap installed over the door yet as I have to buy a larger one due to my add-ons with the door width) down to the top of the door. I used some butyl tape to seal up that piece but seems there is still a leak. See pic. How did you seal yours? Did you have any issues with water? 2. Is the drip cap the main piece to keep water from dripping in through the top of the door? Would that be the difference? IMG_9352 by Carl Culver, on Flickr IMG_9351 by Carl Culver, on Flickr IMG_9350 by Carl Culver, on Flickr
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Post by vikx on Oct 10, 2021 20:55:11 GMT -8
I can try to help. First of all, your trim is a lot thicker than what I use.
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53634851@N03/51575520138/in/dateposted-public/" title="023 j Door Trim (3)"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51575520138_cc497edc78_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="023 j Door Trim (3)"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The trim is also installed with thin 1/2 x 1/16 pure butyl on the edges. It should fit very flush to the trailer metal without gaps.
Also, the top of the door might be a little thick. My trim around the door itself was thin.
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53634851@N03/51574486692/in/dateposted-public/" title="023 j Door Build (6)"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51574486692_1555d04720_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="023 j Door Build (6)"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53634851@N03/51574486627/in/dateposted-public/" title="023 j Door Final (6)"><img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51574486627_f6b56341d3_c.jpg" width="800" height="600" alt="023 j Door Final (6)"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I think if you use thinner material around the door opening, it will help a lot. The door fit can also be tweaked to fit flush to the door trim.
Eyebrows do help but the gaps are just too big to seal. Putty has to be installed with the trim rather than poked in later. You get a better seal that way. Good luck with it. Nice work by the way. We've all been there-that's how we learn.
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Post by tbish on Oct 14, 2021 20:11:45 GMT -8
Thanks for the help with the new Shasta door!! It’s been so helpful. One more question about the door.
Do you use anything under the h-trim/L-trim to seal? Like butyl tape or gutter seal?
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Post by vikx on Oct 15, 2021 10:02:45 GMT -8
I didn't use anything under the door trim but a person could use Gutter Seal. Something that would squish flat and wipe away if it oozed. I tend to have a goopy mess when trying to seal tight fitting trim. I would say the door is supposed to "drain" if it really pours. Also, a person could drill holes in the bottom but I've never seen that.
There isn't a way to keep ALL water out since our trailers aren't aquarium sealed. There's bound to be a little water creeping in here and there. My trailers are kept under cover all winter to keep heavy rain and snow away. The freeze/thaw cycle is really rough on them.
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Post by nccamper on Oct 18, 2021 8:01:17 GMT -8
Sorry I haven’t been answering in a timely fashion. I’m recovering from some surgery and I’m sleeping more than I am awake :-)
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