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Post by Teachndad on Sept 6, 2021 21:46:39 GMT -8
Hi Friends, Had a few hours to get away and work on my 1955 Rod and Reel. One of the large front pane windows has been broken with missing pieces of glass since I bought it. I had previously sandwiched the broken glass with thin sheets of plexiglass using painters tape and clear packing tape, which in hindsight, I should have just taken the glass out and replaced it with new glass.  I would have saved some money as well as time. I removed the remnants of glass today and cleaned off the old butyl tape with mineral spirits. I first moved the metal window glazing strips using an improvised choice - the first tooth on an old Saws All blade with large teeth(in the picture below). I couldn’t find my spring hook. It actually worked to use the saw tooth method. I didn't end up with any noticeable scratches. A spring hook is recommended. I labeled each of the 4 metal glazing strips with a piece of tape identifying the location of the glazing strip around the window frame. We have a picture tutorial you can refer to here on VTT of how to remove the metal glazing strips or retainer clips. vintagetrailertalk.freeforums.net/thread/4864/guide-remove-reseal-shasta-windowMobiltec also has a video on replacing the window glass. www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1RpmdW1njo I measured the window pane length and width as well as thickness first to get the original size so I could have a new pane cut to fit. After about an hour of prying gently with a putty knife and hinging the pieces of broken glass away from the old butyl tape, I had the glass out and the old original butyl tape removed. I few wipes with a well soaked paper towel with mineral spirits got rid of most of the residual old butyl tape. Here is a short video of me removing some of the glass. youtu.be/u3s-kpCUp-A I finished off the opening with a taped up piece of cardboard to keep critters and bugs out while I wait to have the glass cut at the hardware store.  My next goal is to open up and rebuild my door over the Winter holidays. Cheers, Rod
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Post by Teachndad on Sept 11, 2021 11:57:52 GMT -8
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Post by nccamper on Sept 11, 2021 12:49:06 GMT -8
New glass can be a hassle. I've broken my share.
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Post by danrhodes on Sept 11, 2021 15:42:04 GMT -8
That's the humblebrag of big windows... They can be fragile. Maybe try thicker glass? I know my local ACE cuts several thicknesses for a reasonable price
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Post by Teachndad on Sept 11, 2021 19:02:02 GMT -8
Hi Friends,
The original thickness or what was in there before and broken was 1/8" thick. I did have this new pane cut at my local hardware store as a matter of fact at that thickness. They do offer it in 1/16" which I did for my Hehr windows. I would be a little unsure of going up even a 1/16" if available worrying that the retainer clips would not slip in. BTW, a little light spritz of window cleaner on the glass just before snapping in the retainer clips helps. I haven't tried spraying the back contact side of the retainer clip though.
I will give this one more shot with a narrower piece of glass. If it cracks again, dare I go with plexiglass:o especially with this size 26" x 32"?
Rod
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Post by nccamper on Sept 11, 2021 19:13:12 GMT -8
I'm not a big fan of plexiglass. It doesn't hold up as well over time.
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Post by Teachndad on Sept 12, 2021 4:47:27 GMT -8
I'm not a big fan of plexiglass. It doesn't hold up as well over time. I totally agree with that. It scratches easily and with these big panes, it's going to go noticeably concave on me even at 1/8" thickness and will look really lousy. I am not a fan. Only if nothing else works. Rod
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Post by azshastanut on Sept 12, 2021 10:53:06 GMT -8
Hi Rod, I feel your pain. I have found that removing the frame and replacing the glass on a work table is more successful. I use a couple of suction cup tools to position the glass on the glazing tape in the frame so that there is sufficient clearance between frame and glass all around. You will have total control of the reassembly. Best to you. Gary
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Post by Teachndad on Sept 12, 2021 12:12:24 GMT -8
Hi Rod, I feel your pain. I have found that removing the frame and replacing the glass on a work table is more successful. I use a couple of suction cup tools to position the glass on the glazing tape in the frame so that there is sufficient clearance between frame and glass all around. You will have total control of the reassembly. Best to you. Gary Thank you very much Gary. This makes a lot of sense to me. I hadn't done that. Since the frame was vertical, I had rested the bottom of the glass pane onto the bottom of the window frame. That's ALL good advice. I know where I can get those suction cup tools cheap. Thanks Rod
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Post by chriss on Sept 12, 2021 12:43:15 GMT -8
Little trick. Put a thin strip of 1/16 to 1/8" foam or glazing tape on the bottom of the channel and set the glass on that. Do the sides if room allows. Your new glass may come with those sticky black cork bumpers. Those work well too. 1/16" glass seems thin for a window that size. 1/8" would be better.
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Post by Teachndad on Sept 25, 2021 14:25:09 GMT -8
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