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Post by wisconsinjoe on Aug 29, 2020 8:46:47 GMT -8
Finally making some progress. I transferred my 1" scale drawing to full scale on 4 sheets of luan plywood taped together, where I could make detailed design decisions. Then I just built the frame according to the template. Got the first wall framed out. 20200828_164215 by Joe Mirenna, on Flickr I set in the window and door frames to check my openings: Testing fit of door and window frames by Joe Mirenna, on Flickr I also had a graphic artist re-create a new logo based upon our '63 Friendship Vacationaire, on which our new camper is modeled. First the original, and then new. Wondering if anyone has advice on where to get the decal printed. 20200819_135307 by Joe Mirenna, on Flickr I made the red more of a maroon to match my truck color. Primrose-sign-v2_with-outline-01 (1) by Joe Mirenna, on Flickr
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Post by nccamper on Aug 30, 2020 4:44:51 GMT -8
A shop with a view...nice.
As time passes and vintage Hams become even harder to find I think we will see more scratch built campers.
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Post by wisconsinjoe on Aug 30, 2020 5:43:11 GMT -8
Yes, often the only thing left on the rotting campers are the hard metal parts: windows, frames, and harder to find, doors (rebuilt one from parts of two).
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Post by Getnold on Aug 30, 2020 18:31:46 GMT -8
Jim Engine Decals, all one word, on Ebay. He made my Westerner decals and they look perfect! Looking forward to seeing you progress through the build! Good luck!
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Post by WhitneyK on Aug 31, 2020 7:13:36 GMT -8
A shop with a view...nice.
As time passes and vintage Hams become even harder to find I think we will see more scratch built campers.
If using an old trailer frame, is is ethical to claim that the year of the camper is what's on the title when you build from scratch?
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Post by vikx on Aug 31, 2020 20:40:09 GMT -8
Yes. When reselling, the scratch build should certainly be discussed. You're not the first to rebuild from the frame up your way. It's still a Shasta...
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Post by wisconsinjoe on Sept 1, 2020 6:30:54 GMT -8
Been wondering about how to get the thing titled. This started out as a rotted camper with nothing salvageable other than the frame. It was actually an old Jayco frame, probably mid 70s. The scratch build design is based not upon the Jayco, but a '63 Friendship Vacationaire that we own. So, is this a new camper or a Jayco or a Friendship? Will I get a clear title or a bonded title?
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Post by wisconsinjoe on Sept 1, 2020 6:45:54 GMT -8
Looking forward to seeing you progress through the build! Good luck! Thanks. I've built whole houses and even a tiny house (which was challenging, because every cubic inch is important). But nothing has been like this project. Because I'm responsible for every design aspect, I'm forced to see every aspect in three dimensions and to consider the finish details at the rough stages. Then, add in all the components of electric and propane and running gear. And figuring out how to keep weight down. And dealing with aluminum. And keeping out leaks. My head is spinning and I fall asleep late thinking of more details. Exhausting. But fun. Gonna get side walls up in a week!
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Post by WhitneyK on Sept 1, 2020 6:47:22 GMT -8
Here in Indiana, if the frame didn't have a title, you would simply register it as an "assembled" trailer. (there's a process that you have to go through, but not bad, just takes a little time) That's what I had to do with my Tear Drop style camper I built since I pulled the frame out the woods at my brother's place, it was then titled as a 2012 Assembled trailer but classified as a camper. However, if you have the title to the frame, that is what is actually registered, not the box on it the way I understand it. So, a brand new box, no matter the shape / style, on 1960's titled frame is still a 1960's camper, as per the title anyway. If I ever get around to building another scratch built camper on a utility trailer frame, I will title the frame before titling it as a camper. Here in IN, a utility trailer only costs around $25 a year for registration / plates, but a "camper" is $40. Ouch! After a while, that really ads up. I found out that I can license my '67 Compact with "historic" plates and it will only cost $25 a year as opposed to the $40.
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Post by oakback on Sept 1, 2020 10:53:36 GMT -8
Similar in Florida, but it's based on weight. Any trailer can be a "homemade" trailer, but if it's over 2,000 lbs it must be titled. I weighed my scratch build trailer when it was lighter than 2k and got a registration, even though finished weight is over 2k.
If under 2k, the DMV/tax collector only require a weight statement, and for the applicant to sign some forms stating it's homemade. There is no inspection needed, which was nice.
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Post by wisconsinjoe on Sept 5, 2020 7:10:13 GMT -8
Thanks WhitneyK and oakback. Still have a lot of work to do before getting the title. Would like to see pics of your scratch builds. Are they posted at this site?
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Post by wisconsinjoe on Sept 5, 2020 7:37:32 GMT -8
Here is the street side wall framed and sheathed in prefinished birch 1/4" plywood. Glued, finish nailed along seams, and clamped. No these are NOT all of my clamps. Still more in the shop. 20200904_085634 by Joe Mirenna, on Flickr After de-clamping and tape removal (to keep glue oozing at bay and to mark nail targets), I scraped glue run-off and finish sanded curve profiles. 20200904_101034 by Joe Mirenna, on Flickr With the help of three friends, we carried the wall from the shop to the nearby camper shed. Only 1/2 hour of work (wearing face masks of course), but another 90 minutes of beer time to celebrate. Feels great to have something standing up on the trailer. Hope to have the second wall up by the end of the weekend. 20200905_092353 by Joe Mirenna, on Flickr
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Post by ruderunner on Sept 6, 2020 4:05:54 GMT -8
Nice progress, wish I was moving along that well.
As for title, if you have the Jayco title just use it, less hassle with the government and this is clearly a clone of a Vacationaire. I'm using the title from my Dutchman donor, matching the frame stamps and everything is easy.
Just a suggestion and question, are those the wheels and tires you plan to run? If not you might want to change them now to be sure of clearances. My build has the wrong (bigger) wheels and tires currently, but I'm using them as a buffer to make sure I end up with adequate clearance when I put the correct size on.
I've also removed leaf's from the spring packs so I can bottom out the suspension. Just be aware that what looks good on Jack stands might not be so good with weight on the axle.
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Post by azshastanut on Sept 6, 2020 8:41:34 GMT -8
Hi Wisconsinjoe, you are really doing great on your scratch build and from the photos which include snippets of your trailer storage shed, I am impressed. Could you possibly include a few photos of that structure specifically? Thanks, Gary
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Post by wisconsinjoe on Sept 6, 2020 20:20:42 GMT -8
Hi Wisconsinjoe, you are really doing great on your scratch build and from the photos which include snippets of your trailer storage shed, I am impressed. Could you possibly include a few photos of that structure specifically? Thanks, Gary I went back through my posts to find where these pics are. So, I think you should be able to find them by looking up my profile. The title of the thread was "Camper Shed" and there were posts with pics on Jan 17, 18, and 19 of 2015. Too bad the pics are kind of blocked by the Photobucket banner, but you can see through them.
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