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Post by vociferous on Jul 7, 2020 9:22:27 GMT -8
I've got a 1960 B&B Cozy Home (16ft travel trailer) which has a missing window which I'd like to replace. This is a rectangular push-out window. At one point, the trailer had two of these (one port, one starboard). At some point, a PO replaced the starboard one by glazing a pane of glass in-place in the window opening. I'd like to remove the fixed pane of glass and replace it with a proper window. The good thing is that I have the port side window to serve as a model for the a fabricator, if it comes to that. I'm a total noob at trailers and their restoration and so far I haven't been able to drum up any original information about this model (I'm hoping this community will be able to help me with that---I'll make another thread in the right section). So, I'm not really sure what to call this window in order to find a replacement. I think that "hehr" is a manufacturer, not a style per se. So, what kind of window is this and how can I get a second one?
Here are pictures of the port side window. One of the pictures is a bit dark in the critical area, but I'm trying to show how the window sash has an aluminum lip which curls around the frame's lip, forming a sort of pinless hinge.
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Post by vikx on Jul 7, 2020 11:31:59 GMT -8
I've not seen these windows on a vintage trailer before. Maybe another member has... Do you have a name we can address you by?
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Post by vociferous on Jul 8, 2020 7:04:40 GMT -8
Interesting. I suppose it's possible that the original windows were swapped out for these at some point. I guess this relates to that other thread where I'm generally trying to figure out information on this B&B.
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Post by vociferous on Jul 10, 2020 9:28:12 GMT -8
What would you guys suggest I do in order to fix the missing one? Any leads on finding out more about these windows? Or should I look into replacing them with something more typical (jalousie, for example)?
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Post by vikx on Jul 10, 2020 9:33:34 GMT -8
The windows look like they've been there a long time. (rust on the screws/color of aluminum) Can you post a picture of the starboard (bad) window? Please stand back from the trailer so we can see the whole window as well.
A jalousie might be a good substitute if you can find the right size. You will need the rough opening size.
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Post by vociferous on Jul 14, 2020 7:10:44 GMT -8
I know, these windows certainly don't look any newer than anything else on this trailer.
Here's some pictures of the missing window:
You can see that the frame is there, with the hooked aluminum "hinge". But someone has puttied/glazed a pane of glass in the space where the sash should be. The pane is cracked, because on the inside, the handle which pushes the window out is still there. Someone who didn't realize that the window had been modified pushed that handle, and cracked the glass.
You guys have an amazing depth of knowledge about these trailers. What would you do if you were me?
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Post by vociferous on Jul 14, 2020 7:17:44 GMT -8
For further context, they're a little dark, but there are the views from inside:
The missing window has the push out hammer (what broke the pane of glass) but no operator. The other window is fully functional:
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Post by vikx on Jul 14, 2020 10:44:20 GMT -8
I would inspect the broken window closely and compare to the working unit. Would removing the broken glass and placing it in the swing portion of the window work? I'm having trouble visualizing how it operated and what may be missing.
If parts are missing, you will probably need to replace it. A jalousie is a good choice, as they were used in that era.Contact Trailertrasher1@gmail.com for more info. He may even have this type of window.
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Post by vociferous on Jul 14, 2020 11:31:00 GMT -8
I would inspect the broken window closely and compare to the working unit. Would removing the broken glass and placing it in the swing portion of the window work? I'm having trouble visualizing how it operated and what may be missing. No, it would take more than than. The "swing" part of the window, what I've been calling the "sash" is what's missing. The working window picture about shows it (kinda). The photo is dark, but you can see that there's an aluminum frame around the pane of glass which has a slider track at the bottom (which accommodates the operator arm) and also has a curled edge which attaches to the curl edge on the window frame (to allow the swing). I can just get a pane of glass cut at a local shop and just glaze it back in place like the PO did. That would fix the crack, but not leave me with a working window. Indeed, this would restore the functionality it had when I bought it (before someone accidentally broke the window pane). Thanks so much for the tip, I'll write to them and see what they have!
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Post by Teachndad on Jul 25, 2020 16:45:29 GMT -8
Late, I know, but I wanted to add the image of the side of the trailer for easy reference. This image shows the side with the broken window and missing sash. I thought maybe you could find the smaller almost square sized jalousie found on some trailers like the Scotsman trailers, but after seeing those, they look a bit too wide. The only alternatives, if there isn't one the fit, is to either find a machinest to recreate a sash based on the streetside window or enlarge the raw opening for the window frame to accomodate a slightly larger jalousie. Niether is easy. The machinest cost I would think would be very costly. Replacing with a larger window is possible, but would need surgery on both sides of the window including reframing. But, I think it's an option that takes energy and time more than anything else. Just an idea. Have you had any luck, Vociferous, since your last post on July 14? Rod
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Post by vociferous on Jul 29, 2020 7:15:33 GMT -8
Hey everyone, I actually got some very good information from trailertrasher1@gmail.com. They immediately recognized these as Hehr awning windows which are just turned sideways. In fact, once they pointed that out, I found the serial numbers (it's amazing what you can overlook if you don't know what you're looking for!), they're clearview 10s: hehr 1009 20 19 AFR (and L, maybe?, see pictures). VTS sells the sash metal for the similar hallmark 12 series, and i'm trying to figure out if the hinge from a hallmark 12 sash would fit the frame of a clearview 10. If it would, it seems like I can order the metal and glazing seal, miter cut them to size, and get someone with welding skills to join them. Good progress from where I started out for sure! Now, if the 1200 series won't work, then I'm not sure what to do as I don't see anyone selling a kit to build the clearview 10s and finding the right size one on an old airstream seems like it would be unlikely to find and extremely expensive if i do.
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