ladywendolyn
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Post by ladywendolyn on May 1, 2020 17:55:57 GMT -8
Besides sanding the area or replacing the veneer does anyone know of any method for removing water stains and black marks? Lady W   |
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Post by turbodaddy on May 1, 2020 18:52:05 GMT -8
It is hard to tell from your pics if you have removed the outside skins and determined that there isn't structural rot underneath. This kind of damage indicates that there has been water leakage and usually there is underlying rot. In the unlikely case that there is no problem in that way, and you are asking what to do about the "water stains and black marks", I would say you have to remove the damaged material, cover the stained areas with some kind of trim...or better yet, replace the panels. Whatever you do don't just paint over it. Something caused the panels to deteriorate and you have to find and fix the problem.
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Post by ladywendolyn on May 1, 2020 19:01:47 GMT -8
turbodaddy My trailer has been totally stripped to the frame and all rot repaired. I’m now working on the inside from a cosmetic point of view. So yes the source of the damage has been taken care of. Painting the trailer is not an option as it’s a birch interior which I would not paint. I think most of the black will be behind my screen window frames and the curtains or cushions so I don’t see the value in ripping out the panels for that, but if there is a way to lighten the damage I would consider that.. 
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Post by danrhodes on May 1, 2020 21:04:45 GMT -8
Oxalic acid wood bleach applied with a cotton swab. You might sand it all first then bleach the stains.
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Post by vikx on May 1, 2020 21:17:24 GMT -8
Deck wash/cleaner. Do a coat, let dry, repeat.
The plywood isn't very good on the edges. I would consider capping it with 1/8 birch stained that color. I did that on one of my trailers, the panels were sound but ugly and the 1/8 covered it perfectly. Just a thought.
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Post by ladywendolyn on May 1, 2020 21:51:32 GMT -8
Deck wash/cleaner. Do a coat, let dry, repeat. The plywood isn't very good on the edges. I would consider capping it with 1/8 birch stained that color. I did that on one of my trailers, the panels were sound but ugly and the 1/8 covered it perfectly. Just a thought. I was wondering about that vikx. The bad stuff Is all under the aluminum screen trim so it won’t show. I was going to buy expoxy filler and fill it in just to sturdy it’s up, but that also sounds like a reasonable option. I’m trying to resist the temptation to replace the panels as it’s supposed to be a restoration. I am trying to remind myself that I will notice the flaws more than others. @vikx one other question. Do you usually create a gloss finish or semi-gloss finish on your trailers? |
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Post by nccamper on May 2, 2020 4:02:21 GMT -8
Deck wash/cleaner works. As Dan suggested, this is really great... Here are some before and after photos.
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Post by vikx on May 2, 2020 20:38:17 GMT -8
I go shiny because I love shellac. I'm just not the greatest wood finisher around... Shellac is very forgiving.
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Post by Teachndad on May 7, 2020 18:52:17 GMT -8
Deck wash/cleaner works. As Dan suggested, this is really great... Here are some before and after photos.
That's some good stuff, man. How many passes with the Oxacilic acid did you take, NC, to get that level of stain removal? Thank you for sharing the pix. Rod |
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Post by Teachndad on May 7, 2020 18:55:30 GMT -8
Deck wash/cleaner. Do a coat, let dry, repeat. The plywood isn't very good on the edges. I would consider capping it with 1/8 birch stained that color. I did that on one of my trailers, the panels were sound but ugly and the 1/8 covered it perfectly. Just a thought. Vix, When you say capping it, do you mean covering the whole wall with a sheet of 1/8" paneling or do you mean a trim piece to cover the darkest near the window framing? Thank you. Rod |
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Post by vikx on May 7, 2020 20:38:59 GMT -8
You can do either, a cap or the whole piece. I've done both. On the back sidewalls of my Bellwood, the corners were stained but sound. I made caps and scalloped them. Brass nails worked perfectly to make them decorative. Here's a photo before the brass nails were added: 1954bellwood.shutterfly.com/pictures/316#300Another trailer I had was IMPOSSIBLE to dismantle, so I capped the walls and used synthetic bendy trim instead of welt. Worked well and didn't take away from the trailer as it was mid 60s. The original walls were very similar to Lady W's tho peeling a bit more. I saved all but two pieces of ceiling and used new birch panels there. I don't think it's ever wise to cap a ceiling. You have to lift/float the roof to do repairs anyway, so no reason not to add new ceiling panels. That particular trailer was constructed of 2 by lumber with nails about 3 1/2" long. I couldn't pull all of them, even after 50+ years. The rafters did not want to give up their purchase for sure. The thing was a TANK. |
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Post by nccamper on May 8, 2020 4:20:09 GMT -8
Deck wash/cleaner works. As Dan suggested, this is really great... Here are some before and after photos.
That's some good stuff, man. How many passes with the Oxacilic acid did you take, NC, to get that level of stain removal? Thank you for sharing the pix. Rod On most stains it took two or three passes. Make the area damp but don’t let it run down the wall. Repeat and then wiping down with the clean damp rag several times. On really small areas I used a Q-Tip. |
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