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Post by scootermcrad on May 26, 2020 8:18:20 GMT -8
Photos are missing for me but vids work. How's the build going? Shoot! Ok. Let me see if I can figure out how to re-host them. I had them hosted on Google photos. Interesting that the videos work but not the photos. Thank you for letting me know! Work is basically non-existent outside of just trying to identify it and get the paperwork from the previous owner. I wanted to make sure before I got too far into this thing that I had an idea of what it is and have the title stuff worked out. Finally have the title, but it's unsigned from 1967. UHG! Nobody did the paperwork correctly. So I need to make sure the VIN is clear and as long as it is, I will have to see how to clear all this up. I've received some information from some of our board members on possible solutions for this. I have dissected the bathroom a bit. Pretty much all of that toilet business will be going in the trash. It is not original, not practical, and they really screwed some things up when they modified the closet to make it all fit. So that will be returned to it's original configuration so we can get room back in the bed area. I will somehow include a small porta-potty in one of the closets. Or something.
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Post by scootermcrad on May 27, 2020 5:37:54 GMT -8
Okay. I've re-hosted the pictures I have so far on Flikr. Let me try a sample picture and if it works, maybe we can fix the rest that aren't displaying. I've never posted from Flikr before. Can you guys see this? Seems small... How about this? This seems to work IMG_9232 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr
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Post by vikx on May 27, 2020 22:21:05 GMT -8
Pix are working. What a COOL old trailer!
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Post by scootermcrad on May 28, 2020 12:23:12 GMT -8
Pix are working. What a COOL old trailer! Great! Are all of them working, or just the new ones I posted in the last post? I have been POURING over the internet with renewed motivation after getting the title in hand with no manufacturer on it. This trailer doesn't look like anything else out there. The overall shape is just a bit different from every other maker. There are a couple that are very similar in profile, but don't have the side trim or the "aero-shaped" wheel cut outs. The doors are slight different too. The Kit is still overall very similar, but the shape up front is different and a few other subtle details that really eliminate it from being a kit. The FLOOR! The floor is the big one. Really starting to think this might be a one-off. Pretty well done, all things considered, if it's a one-off. I hate to say I will have to build a chassis for this thing, but the original is really very unsafe looking, the closer I look at it. I suspect that this has not been on the road since 1967 and if that's the case, that means it's only been on the road less than 20 years of it's life in total. Starting to wonder if it could have been used as a guest room on someone's property with the toilet setup the way it was.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 12:34:41 GMT -8
Sounds like a interesting camper you have. I only see the pics you just posted on this page.
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Post by scootermcrad on May 28, 2020 13:03:10 GMT -8
Okay! Since everything has been re-hosted, I'll re post them here. IMG_9221 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9220 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9234 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9250 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9251 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9249 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9231 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9230 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr IMG_9225 by Scott Schmeiser, on Flickr
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Post by vikx on May 28, 2020 20:54:07 GMT -8
I don't think the floor is original. It certainly is sturdy... It looks too heavy for the frame but well built.
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Post by scootermcrad on May 29, 2020 6:45:05 GMT -8
I don't think the floor is original. It certainly is sturdy... It looks too heavy for the frame but well built. I agree 100% Too heavy for the frame. The tongue is also way too short, thus lots of witness marks in the corners from hitting the bumper or body of the tow vehicle while turning. I just don't think I can make this chassis work without destroying most or all of it to reinforce it. The wood lateral supports aren't doing it any justice either. No brakes on it either. The safest bet is probably to build a new chassis and compliment it with as much of the original style as possible. This trailer will get used quite a bit when it's done, so I need it to be safe and reliable. Then put the original chassis aside I'm new to all this, but the floor really looks original to me, based on the structure of everything that interfaces with it. There is no subfloor at all. Just planks over the wood lateral supports and the cabinets right down on it. I don't think this trailer has ever been apart. The only modifications I can see are the bathroom, which can be seen in the videos. I'll try to repost a picture of the weird bathroom they built. Between the undersupported chassis and the floors (and the shape), these things are what make me think it's an old DIY build. There's not much intergrity to a plank floor with no sub floor. Seems like a major manufacturer would have used a plywood or at the very least a structural sub floor. But maybe I'm completely wrong. Just doesn't look like it's been apart. I would like to keep the floor, so during this restoration I think I will add an appropriate sub floor between the chassis and original floor. Obviously it's been painted a few times, too. Looks like it may have originally been a greenish color, then a red and polished paint scheme, and then someone did this weird brown and tan color. Looks like just house paint. Most of peels off easily. Should be easy to take care of. What an eye sore, though. The Marvel windows will have to get completely redone. I want to try and save the glass and then replace the right side windows to match. May go ahead and make new aluminum ones and try to make them look as original as possible. That will mean making new hinges, as well. I think I have the tools to make it happen, though.
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Post by vikx on May 29, 2020 14:52:48 GMT -8
You're right-could be original and then maybe not... I think redoing the frame is wise and will give you more options for the floor and/or cabinet attachment.
I've had a couple of trailers that were "modified" shortly after purchase; one was a 57 Shasta with about 50 angle brackets on the joists. Everywhere there was a joint, there was a bracket. It wasn't original, but could have been... Thing is, I have another 57 with no brackets. So there ya go.
My Aljo had 4 extra aluminum I beams on the frame. The PO guy was a chainsaw/logging supplier. I guess he needed the extra beef to travel the dirt roads into camps...
Be sure to keep us in the loop as your build continues!
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Post by scootermcrad on Jun 1, 2020 5:46:50 GMT -8
You're right-could be original and then maybe not... I think redoing the frame is wise and will give you more options for the floor and/or cabinet attachment. I've had a couple of trailers that were "modified" shortly after purchase; one was a 57 Shasta with about 50 angle brackets on the joists. Everywhere there was a joint, there was a bracket. It wasn't original, but could have been... Thing is, I have another 57 with no brackets. So there ya go. My Aljo had 4 extra aluminum I beams on the frame. The PO guy was a chainsaw/logging supplier. I guess he needed the extra beef to travel the dirt roads into camps... Be sure to keep us in the loop as your build continues! Yeah! Who knows! This thing has been around so long, ANYTHING is possible! The original owner could have said, "I want wood floors! Let's gut it!" HAHA I appreciate your input, as always! Really looking forward to when I can get going on this. I will keep everyone posted. In the meantime, if anyone has run across a trailer with floors like this, I would love to hear about it. Weird stuff! Thanks!
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