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Post by bluffskier on Nov 27, 2017 5:53:14 GMT -8
Hi, I'm from South TX, Gulf Coast. I'm going to build a canned ham. I love love love camping on the beach, but my back and shoulder won't allow me to pack out with a tent, and the work is excessive every time.
I'm looking for plans to build a small Shasta Clone. I have found some other plans, but want to build the iconic Shasta, won't be exact, but modernized. Camper will be around 13-15 ft total length.
This build is my New Year's Resolution for '18.
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Post by kirkadie on Nov 27, 2017 9:43:54 GMT -8
I'll bet you get some good ideas by watching other members' frame up restores. Always good pics of frames and axles (not your typical utility style frames), and floor plans, etc. Also many places to find ancillary stuff; electrics, appliances, etc. Some trailers were made better than others 50 years ago and you might learn what not to do as well. Good luck in your effort, and as they say in Austin, "onward through the fog".
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 27, 2017 17:00:48 GMT -8
Have you ever owned or built a trailer before? Because the people who are building "Tiny Homes" are doing it all completely 100% wrong. If they were doing it right they would be building a trailer instead of a house on top of a trailer frame. There is a lot to consider when building a trailer. Too much to talk about here. But size, weight and structural integrity are among the top things to be thinking about. The trailer manufacturers have it down pat. But if you are thinking of building your trailer like a house you are already off to a bad start.
Not putting your idea down. Just trying to figure out how much you know about what you would like to do.
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Post by bigbill on Nov 28, 2017 6:50:52 GMT -8
Speaking of "tiny homes" I see these on TV and listen to how people plan on towing them. This makes me wonder how a follow up show called Nightmare experiences would be. Can you picture the average person trying to tow some of those creations. Things like height, width, wind resistance, plus weight are just a few things that are not mentioned. In my opinion many of these are sold to people that have no idea what they are getting into. Then the thought that many communities have zoning laws prohibiting such things to exist there. I think most people would be much better off buying a nice RV, but who am I. I have noticed most have no lights to meet federal laws for being towed, you know little things like tail lights and clearance lights that have been required since 1968.
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Post by elewayne on Nov 28, 2017 8:19:22 GMT -8
I have no idea who you are , so you may have all the wear with all to complete such a project.I could, but I've been in the building trades for about 40 years, and have a well equipped shop in my back yard, 1200 sq ft of space, and way too many machines. I've rebuilt two trailers up from the ground, so to speak, and will say that it is a big commitment. both in funds and time. I'm working on a total gut and rebuild of a 67 silver Streak right now. Shell was in pretty good shape when I started. Just about finished with the interior and should finish within 3 years. I'm retired and working on it pretty much full time, at least as hard as I work any more. I do work almost every day though.I thought it would take about a year, LOL. Cost is about $16,000 "projected". There is just so much learning and planning time involved I hadn't counted on. There are three completely separate electrical systems on a trailer, for instance. A lot of planning on the other systems like plumbing and gas too. A lot to know if you want to avoid big costly mistakes. That being said you should check out the Flyte Camp site and look at all the pictures and stuff about their new canned ham they are manufacturing now, for something like $70,000. They are doing a really nice job though. I have a lot of pictures and commentary on my site that might interest you too. WWW.Silverlodger.com. It covers the 1949 Silverlodger trailer, that got stolen, and my 1967 23ft Silver Streak I'm doing currently. I'm in Houston, by the way, if you want to talk sometime. Wayne Evans
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Post by nccamper on Nov 28, 2017 10:52:40 GMT -8
Welcome Bluffskier!
I agree with the above comments. The overlapping materials were very counter-intuitive to me the first time around. Not at all like my construction experience. But the challenge is what makes it fun, isn't it?
elewayne, cool camper. It must weigh 2 tons.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 15:12:47 GMT -8
I think bluffskier is referring to building a "kit" travel trailer, not a tiny house. Kind of like building your own Shelby Cobra, instead of buying an old one to restore.
I did a quick search and found a number of sources for camper plans...many of them for the "in vogue" teardrop style.
Here's a link to a site that does a larger variety:
www.glen-l.com/campers/glenlrv.html
Sounds like a cool idea instead of buying a brand new Shasta for over $20 grand! You might be on to something here...I'm very interested in seeing your progress.
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Post by bigbill on Nov 28, 2017 16:24:15 GMT -8
A teardrop trailer is not the size or style of a Shasta. Many people on here started out with teardrops then went to vintage trailers. What mobiltec was saying is there is a major design difference between a tow-able trailer and a trailer built like a house. As you spend more time on the board and search back through the old post you will see trailer of all types started, some were finished and some were not. You will also get a better feel for what it actually cost to build or rebuild a trailer in both time and money. I have to agree with not buying a new Shasta for twenty grand.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 28, 2017 16:27:30 GMT -8
I think you all got completely off track with what bluffskier was asking. Please reread the original post - bluffskier is referring to building a "kit" travel trailer, not a tiny house. Kind of like building your own Shelby Cobra, instead of buying an old one to restore.
I did a quick search and found a number of sources for camper plans...many of them for the "in vogue" teardrop style.
Here's a link to a site that does a larger variety:
www.glen-l.com/campers/glenlrv.html
Sounds like a cool idea instead of buying a brand new Shasta for over $20 grand! You might be on to something here...I'm very interested in seeing your progress.
I saw that he is looking for plans for a Shasta but as far as I know there are none. And the only kit plans I have ever seen are for teardrops. So building a canned ham trailer from scratch with no experience is a bit much I think... At the very least he should join my classes because we go over all of that from the ground up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 16:31:57 GMT -8
Right...the link attached has a much wider variety of campers. I don't believe any are the dinky teardrop style. Has anyone out there tried a "kit" build for a trailer? I know the Shelby Cobra kits are very high quality and perform the same, if not better than a real Shelby (at a fraction of the cost). Certainly not great for resale, but you can't beat the function. I believe that is what bluffskier is looking for in a travel trailer.
It would be great if bluffskier could chime in and clarify what is being sought after from this forum. I think we may be kind of speculating..
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Post by elewayne on Nov 28, 2017 22:33:34 GMT -8
Nc camper, I suppose you are talking about the Silver Streak. Specks say it weighed about 3800 lbs from the factory. The way I'm doing the cabinets will add some weight but a modern truck will pull it easily still. 4500 lbs maybe, finished. I've had it out a couple times so far, I'm finishing the kitchen now and then the booth. It's a very well built trailer. A new 23ft Airstream weighs in at about 6,000 lbs, for reference. I'll put more pictures of the interior soon. I lost my picture filing software in a computer crash. and I need to get a new one loaded.
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Post by mobiltec on Nov 29, 2017 6:49:18 GMT -8
I looked at that kit trailer build site and there are no canned ham trailers listed.
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Post by elewayne on Nov 29, 2017 7:18:00 GMT -8
I could probably draw plans for one. I've been thinking about it for a while. I'm pretty good in auto cad. It's still a large project just to do the planning and drawing. I haven't thought what I might have to charge. I'm retired and don't have to make a living at it though. I was thinking about drawing up a unit like the 26 ft Yellowstone, with two doors. One in front,one in the rear bedroom, but then I got to really liking the aircraft style trailers. So much better built and more leak resistant. Hoping by spring, to have the Streak finished.
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Post by elewayne on Nov 29, 2017 7:21:57 GMT -8
On the post from Mobiltec, IT would be a major "kit" to build a decent canned ham. sort of like those house kits sears used to do, Way back.
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Post by aslmx on Nov 29, 2017 18:26:55 GMT -8
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