jbae1982
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Post by jbae1982 on Oct 15, 2017 8:08:53 GMT -8
Hello all!
I'm brand New here and just purchased a 1970 serro Scotty gaucho 13'. the roof is pretty dinged up and the passenger rear siding and the rear siding are pretty damaged. Also there is every kind of sealant all over and around the trim (rv sealant, caulk, and silicone)
I'm looking to tear into this thing and my idea is to remove all of the skin, inspect under and repair. Then replace the damaged skin and button is all back up.
My main question: scottys came with the siding butted together with a corner cap. It seems to me the Shasta style joint of overlap and Jrail would last longer as it is not relaying on butyl to stop water intrusion in from the screw holes on the roof. Would it be a good idea to replace the roof panel (it's damaged anyway) and do a 1/2" overlap joint and convert to Jrail? Or is this a no no for various reasons?
Thanks in advance for the support!
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mrmarty51
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Post by mrmarty51 on Oct 15, 2017 11:32:06 GMT -8
Welcome to the forum jbae1982. Those with more knowledge than I will probably be along shortly to answer Your questions.
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kirkadie
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Post by kirkadie on Oct 15, 2017 12:18:12 GMT -8
jbae, I also have a Scotty, have nearly completed a frame up rebuild, and in the process of installing new front, back and roof skins, have also contemplated doing what you suggest. I have the original old side skins back on and will be doing a 6 piece replacement of new skin for the rest. Because of some structural improvements over the original build I am also hesitant to do the edges the way Scotty did them originally but... our walls are only 1/2" thick, unlike Shasta and others, and nailing or screwing on Jrail offers a great risk of penetrating the walls on the inside, and the thought a million protruding little sharp points is off-putting. Short enough screws or nails that won't poke through would not, in my opinion, give a satisfactory hold to the rail to the side and that is why the original build used cap rail, where the fasteners go through 3/4" material. My plan is to install the new aluminum with an overhang on the top and upper front and back after fastening it with staples into the thicker 1X material and then trimming it about 3/8" wider than the sides, and bending that down. I have done a couple of test pieces and that works OK on straight runs but leaves something to be desired on the curves, where it seems like it will keep the cap rail from getting a good seal because of the folds you have to make. Whatever I decide to do I will also use "seal tite" tape: catalog.sealdesignllc.com/product/1-25-seal-tite-corner-seal-tape/on the edges where the walls meet the front and back so that in the rare chance that my Scotty gets finished and towed out of our yard, rain or any water being flung at it at speed might be slowed down from getting in. That's my short answer to your idea.
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Post by vikx on Oct 15, 2017 20:22:12 GMT -8
I like the idea of overlapping roof metal. To compensate for the 1/2" walls, you might add backers inside to provide a good purchase for the screws. Many will be inside cabinets anyway. J rail is always better than L rail these days. If we had access to the old style cloth backed putty, maybe the L rail would seal properly.
That said, I'm going to use butyl on my 57 Shasta lower skin L rails to keep it original.
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Post by HOTRODPRIMER on Oct 16, 2017 6:30:43 GMT -8
Nothing to add with the exception of Welcome to the site. Danny
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Post by kamhawk on Oct 16, 2017 6:44:43 GMT -8
I too have a Scotty. Mine was/is a frame off rebuild. When rebuilding I replaced the 1/2" walls with 3/4" walls. I am to the point of adding the original siding and will be putting new metal on the roof, front and back. My plan is to overlap the edges by 1/2" or so, then add the cap rail. I am not a fan of the original butt joint design and figure this should slow down any leaks. IMG_20171008_100941493_HDR by KamHawk, on Flickr
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jbae1982
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Post by jbae1982 on Oct 17, 2017 4:11:36 GMT -8
Hey guys! Thanks for the warm welcomes and all the info provided to consider. The wife and myself are excited to embark on this challenge and new way of "camping"
Lots of things to consider! But first comes the tear down this winter.
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