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Post by danrhodes on Aug 31, 2017 9:56:15 GMT -8
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Post by Ross on Aug 31, 2017 10:16:39 GMT -8
Cool visual with the vape smoke!
I've seen the other video before and always have to ask....why did he not brake and slow way down....that would have put the trailer back into check. Speeding up is an asinine thing to do, plus shows that the driver has no idea how to tow safely!
Thanks for sharing the videos!!
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Post by nccamper on Aug 31, 2017 11:49:58 GMT -8
....why did he not brake and slow way down....that would have put the trailer back into check. Speeding up is an asinine thing to do... My thought exactly. BananaHead.
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Post by bigbill on Sept 1, 2017 8:30:07 GMT -8
Better than that why didn't they have the proper weight balance with 10% or more of the weight on the hitch. This might of prevented the problem in the first place. The video is a classic example of a person buying a trailer without taking the time to learn the proper, safe way to tow their trailer. Also they weren't bright enough to realize that you can't drive like a moron when pulling a rig like that.
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Post by danrhodes on Sept 1, 2017 10:00:16 GMT -8
Better than that why didn't they have the proper weight balance with 10% or more of the weight on the hitch. This might of prevented the problem in the first place. The video is a classic example of a person buying a trailer without taking the time to learn the proper, safe way to tow their trailer. Also they weren't bright enough to realize that you can't drive like a moron when pulling a rig like that. I was speaking with a fellow from Germany about his light camper, 850kg. He said German law requires 75kg of tongue weight for this camper. It's written in the registration paperwork and they actually will stop you and check. I found it strange that the law would require not even 9% tongue weight, the absolute minimum I've ever seen recommended in the US.
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Post by ruderunner on Sept 1, 2017 16:26:41 GMT -8
Germans typically are better drives than Americans.
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Post by danrhodes on Sept 1, 2017 16:51:00 GMT -8
Germans typically are better drives than Americans. I'm pretty sure Germans only think they are better drivers...like most everything else ;-)
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Post by Hamlet on Sept 1, 2017 20:24:19 GMT -8
The driver is a nitwit, plain and simple. Thr US has a higher MVA death rate than 19 other high income countries, and Germany is included. We've done a fair amount of driving in both Germany and Norway on roads that rang from the autobahn to 1.5 lane two-way roads north of the Arctic circle. Two big differences that we just can't seem to learn in our society... ALWAYS buckle up and make sure your passengers buckle up, too, and NEVER drive intoxicated by anything. The MVA death rate is 2.5 times that of Germany and nearly FIVE times greater than Sweden's.
OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.
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Post by bigbill on Sept 2, 2017 3:36:40 GMT -8
The driver is a nitwit, plain and simple. Thr US has a higher MVA death rate than 19 other high income countries, and Germany is included. We've done a fair amount of driving in both Germany and Norway on roads that rang from the autobahn to 1.5 lane two-way roads north of the Arctic circle. Two big differences that we just can't seem to learn in our society... ALWAYS buckle up and make sure your passengers buckle up, too, and NEVER drive intoxicated by anything. The MVA death rate is 2.5 times that of Germany and nearly FIVE times greater than Sweden's. OK, I'll get off my soapbox now. Remember people in this country can't help it because alcohol and drug abuse is a disease and it is not there fault if they kill you or your loved ones while driving. B.S. Tell this to the five children I pulled out of a vehicle after a drunk driver hit their vehicle head on killing their parents. Also people in this country don't know how to yield,or obey laws, they think laws are for other people.
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Post by Hamlet on Sept 2, 2017 8:42:32 GMT -8
Bill, I have to agree, to a point. As a nurse of way too many years, I have seen the effects of alcohol and drugs on the individual, on the family and on the community. But, like type 2 diabetes, it is a disease, one that has devastating side effects for everyone and for which part of the "blame" comes from lifestyle choices.. ETOH abuse is as much a societal as is type 2 diabetes, one that costs this country billions of dollars in healthcare every year, and many, many hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths as well. Advertisers have convinced us that drinking makes us happier and more beautiful and that salt, fat and preservative-laden quick and easy to prepare "food" is healthy. We all bear some responsibility for listening to these lies and helping to perpetuate them. A healthy lifestyle can either prevent , delay, or mitigate the onset of type 2 diabetes (as I know from personal experience), but if you have that gene and something flips it on, it becomes a medical issue. Avoiding alcohol if you know there's a family tendency toward addictive behavior will prevent alcoholism, but if the gene gets flipped on, it becomes a medical issue, too. The devastation caused by a drunk driver is most certainly his or her fault and there must always be consequences to that person, but we all need to look to ourselves for the solutions. The 42 year old man with uncontrolled diabetes, who had already had two amputations and died from a massive heart attack, leaving his stay at home wife and four teenage and younger children doesn't have any more consequences, his family has to pay them.
Sorry for the rant, Vikx, pleas delete this if it's not appropriate, it's just that I've spent more than 40 years teaching individuals and families to be responsible for themselves, and educating other nurses to teach the same. It's become part of who I am, good, bad, or indifferent, and I feel compelled to correct misinformation.
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Post by bigbill on Sept 2, 2017 18:20:31 GMT -8
Bill, I have to agree, to a point. As a nurse of way too many years, I have seen the effects of alcohol and drugs on the individual, on the family and on the community. But, like type 2 diabetes, it is a disease, one that has devastating side effects for everyone and for which part of the "blame" comes from lifestyle choices.. ETOH abuse is as much a societal as is type 2 diabetes, one that costs this country billions of dollars in healthcare every year, and many, many hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths as well. Advertisers have convinced us that drinking makes us happier and more beautiful and that salt, fat and preservative-laden quick and easy to prepare "food" is healthy. We all bear some responsibility for listening to these lies and helping to perpetuate them. A healthy lifestyle can either prevent , delay, or mitigate the onset of type 2 diabetes (as I know from personal experience), but if you have that gene and something flips it on, it becomes a medical issue. Avoiding alcohol if you know there's a family tendency toward addictive behavior will prevent alcoholism, but if the gene gets flipped on, it becomes a medical issue, too. The devastation caused by a drunk driver is most certainly his or her fault and there must always be consequences to that person, but we all need to look to ourselves for the solutions. The 42 year old man with uncontrolled diabetes, who had already had two amputations and died from a massive heart attack, leaving his stay at home wife and four teenage and younger children doesn't have any more consequences, his family has to pay them. Sorry for the rant, Vikx, pleas delete this if it's not appropriate, it's just that I've spent more than 40 years teaching individuals and families to be responsible for themselves, and educating other nurses to teach the same. It's become part of who I am, good, bad, or indifferent, and I feel compelled to correct misinformation. What I'm saying is if you had a disease that could kill other people you would be quarantined, but if you are an addict you are released on the street where you can kill innocent people and destroy the lives of others. The system is failing us all including the addict (alcohol or drug) by not removing them from society until they can be at least be treated, thus protecting us all from them. Talk to the spouses. parents, and children of a person killed by an addict/drunk and ask how it changed their lives. In my opinion they are no different than a person killing random people with a gun, they are sick also. Sorry just the opinion of a man who has picked up too many dead bodies then tried to comfort those left behind.
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