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Post by iamvoldemort on Jul 7, 2017 9:05:20 GMT -8
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Post by Ten on Jul 7, 2017 10:55:02 GMT -8
"Worth it" is always a matter of opinion, and here's mine: short answer, no.
Too many cover-ups for my comfort level. Rear wall is covered, so is the panel under the dinette seat streetside. The obvious separation and insulation showing in the curved corner is 90% likely covering frame rot in the bottom corner. Floors are most susceptible to rotting in the corners, where they catch all that water that made the stain above.
Have you seen this in person? How does it smell? Is there any give around the bottom of the door framing, and the floor inside the door? How well does the door open and close?
There are more things to look for but you hit the biggest point already, needing to see under the skins.
Even though at first glance at the tiny photos on my phone it appears to be one of the better ones I have seen lately, in my nasty opinion, $4K should be the price for she, not starting out.
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Post by iamvoldemort on Jul 7, 2017 11:11:30 GMT -8
"Worth it" is always a matter of opinion, and here's mine: short answer, no. Too many cover-ups for my comfort level. Rear wall is covered, so is the panel under the dinette seat streetside. The obvious separation and insulation showing in the curved corner is 90% likely covering frame rot in the bottom corner. Floors are most susceptible to rotting in the corners, where they catch all that water that made the stain above. Have you seen this in person? How does it smell? Is there any give around the bottom of the door framing, and the floor inside the door? How well does the door open and close? There are more things to look for but you hit the biggest point already, needing to see under the skins. Even though at first glance at the tiny photos on my phone it appears to be one of the better ones I have seen lately, in my nasty opinion, $4K should be the price for she, not starting out. You just don't know until you really dig into all the parts. I have not seen it in person yet just what the gentleman has sent me in photos and told me on his inspection. Again he restores these and not filling me with fluff to sell it. He makes his money from restoring campers and offering this pre fixed so I can camp in it with my family and do work myself (I don't mind a challenge I just don't want to over pay for one) He would gladly keep this and fix it up himself and make a lot more than he would selling it to me. I just don't want to pay $4000 for something that needs the same work if I can find one in the future for $2000. I do not see one of these pop up for sale in my area very often.
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Post by nccamper on Jul 7, 2017 12:18:11 GMT -8
I agree with TEN, $4000 is too high unless you want it enough to overpay.
$4000 for the camper $3000 for materials restoring it. -------
$9000 It may be worth this much without an automotive paint job
$2000 profit for one year working all or part of almost every weekend.
I've bought campers for (IMO) top dollar because I wanted them. How much do you want it?
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Post by iamvoldemort on Jul 7, 2017 12:20:40 GMT -8
I agree with TEN, $4000 is too high unless you want it enough to overpay. $4000 for the camper $3000 for materials restoring it. ------- $9000 It may be worth this much without an automotive paint job $2000 profit for one year working all or part of almost every weekend. I've bought campers for (IMO) top dollar because I wanted them. How much do you want it? Well I wouldn't sell it to flip personally. I WANT it. But obviously don't NEED it. I don't see many of these pop up. $3,000 or 3,500 sounds better to me. I am already working on a trailblazer restoring from the ground up. It would be nice to have something that, even with water damage, is now dry and sealed and in usable enough condition at the moment to actually camp in.
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Post by mel on Jul 7, 2017 13:18:25 GMT -8
I would say its overpriced, ones in that condition often sell for much less. I am super cheap so I wouldnt pay more than $1500 top dollar. But with todays market I would think $2000-$2500 would be a fair price. I definitely dont think it is ready/safe to camp in that condition. But if you love it and really want it, then go for it. If not then wait for something cheaper to come along.
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Post by nccamper on Jul 7, 2017 13:53:08 GMT -8
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Post by vikx on Jul 7, 2017 21:30:21 GMT -8
NO. This is not a 4 K trailer. "Sealing" often causes more damage than said, especially if it's ROOF GOOP.
This was a Shasta:
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53634851@N03/35493572412/in/dateposted-public/" title="Pink Shasta Disaster 3"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4238/35493572412_2b49ddcb83.jpg" width="275" height="365" alt="Pink Shasta Disaster 3"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
And this:
<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53634851@N03/35275270380/in/dateposted-public/" title="Pink Disaster"><img src="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4262/35275270380_721b3267b6.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="Pink Disaster"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Friend or Foe, this one should be considered from $500 to $1500, if it has a TITLE. They don't sell well and certainly not if there are no photos to prove structural repairs have been completed.
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Post by bigbill on Jul 8, 2017 4:00:52 GMT -8
This trailer scares me and I am practically fearless. I believe from looking at the pictures it not even be safe to tow. It appears to have been patched in many places, after having many leaks. Unless wood framing has been replaced my guess is it is severely damaged. If you are willing to purchase it with the thought that it will need a major rebuild from the bottom to the top and have the time and money for the project then go ahead, but you might find a properly reconstructed ready to use rig for less money than you will have in this unit once restored.
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Post by nccamper on Jul 8, 2017 8:12:09 GMT -8
I WANT it. But obviously don't NEED it. How much did my wife have to pay you to say that about vintage campers?
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Post by bigbill on Jul 8, 2017 11:39:39 GMT -8
This trailer scares me and I am practically fearless. I believe from looking at the pictures it not even be safe to tow. It appears to have been patched in many places, after having many leaks. Unless wood framing has been replaced my guess is it is severely damaged. If you are willing to purchase it with the thought that it will need a major rebuild from the bottom to the top and have the time and money for the project then go ahead, but you might find a properly reconstructed ready to use rig for less money than you will have in this unit once restored. I am glad that I can talk better than I type or proof read.
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Post by iamvoldemort on Jul 9, 2017 7:23:09 GMT -8
I WANT it. But obviously don't NEED it. How much did my wife have to pay you to say that about vintage campers? Haha Right? I'm trying not to tell my wife about this one. We will see how long that lasts.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Jul 9, 2017 22:18:46 GMT -8
I paid $2000 for my trailer. But only because they are few and far between in Canada where I am. I personally think that there is no such thing as a 50 year old trailer with no rot. Unless it was stored inside from day one. So that being said, no matter what you pay you will still need to invest several hundred hours on taking skins off and doing some level of repair and rebuild. There is no getting around it, unless you want to ignore it which unfortunately many naive people who buy trailers on Facebook like to do. Then they post statements like " my trailer is listing to one side while driving and I have no idea why" ... so to cut to the chase. Better to spend $2000 or less on a trailer with good bones and original appliances, lights and windows with some visible rot, and have the rest of your money to put into materials, than to overpay for a trailer that someone says has not rot (don't believe them unless they have restoration photos) and still have to do the work in the end.
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Post by mrmarty51 on Jul 10, 2017 4:07:18 GMT -8
All I am going to say is, $4,000.00 is too much aaaaand, welcome to the forum Mort.
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Post by iamvoldemort on Jul 10, 2017 10:56:32 GMT -8
Seriously thanks everyone for the info. I spoke with him and I am going to hold off. I just don't have (he came down to $3200) That kind of money to throw into something at the moment. I will continue with the overhaul of my Trailblazer!
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