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Post by nomad69 on Sept 30, 2016 6:16:29 GMT -8
I hope this is the best location for this topic...i've got this HW heater in our "new to us" nomad camper. the PO has bypassed the water heater all together and told me it just needed replaced. i'm wanting to troubleshoot it if possible to settle my mind it's really worth throwing it away. he told me either the unit leaked, or possibly the connections, he wasn't sure... he also told me the pilot wouldn't light. isn't there a shield missing on the right side? anything else missing? is it worth fooling with this thing? i'd really like to stay on gas in case we go dry camping.
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Post by vikx on Sept 30, 2016 22:12:55 GMT -8
The burner is missing.
I'm guessing this tank cracked from freezing and the PO may not have known that. They start to leak like crazy when pressure is applied. Also, somebody added a new drain to the tank, a little late, IMO.
In any case, it's not worth messing with.
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Post by nomad69 on Oct 3, 2016 4:49:06 GMT -8
Thanks! makes sense now that you say that, there isn't anything in there! i'll start looking at options. is it worth trying to setup both electric HW and propane?
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Post by Ten on Oct 3, 2016 16:40:37 GMT -8
Your answer depends on how you intend to camp. I like the idea of the combination unit, but in the long run, if you are camping more where you don't have the amperage to run an electric unit, then the propane-only is less expense and easier installation. Also the new units are quite a lot more efficient than the old ones.
Personally I opted to stay as close to original as possible, and I am finding that the simpler design of the original is quite workable. I installed the propane-only with the pilot, which is really the simplest mechanically speaking.
I do not know if there is a direct replacement for that particular heater, but the cabinet can be refitted to a modern unit. Just make suer you are fitting your utilities to fit your choice, i.e. wiring and plumbing, to fit in your replacement unit.
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Post by Ten on Oct 3, 2016 16:46:47 GMT -8
The burner is missing. I'm guessing this tank cracked from freezing and the PO may not have known that. They start to leak like crazy when pressure is applied. Also, somebody added a new drain to the tank, a little late, IMO. In any case, it's not worth messing with. The instructions with the Atwood heater states that the tank will still retain some water after simply draining with the drain valve. That could explain a broken tank. Even blowing it out will leave some in the tank, so some antifreeze is recommended. I highly recommend considering a bypass for the water heater, makes winterizing a lot simpler and more effective.
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Post by vikx on Oct 3, 2016 20:56:27 GMT -8
Usually, the small amount of water doesn't crack the tank but a full tank will not like a hard freeze... A bypass kit is handy and you can add a little RV antifreeze when winterizing.
I agree with Ten that simpler is better; the old pilot models last a long time and no electronics (circuit boards) to go bad. You can always add a "Lightning Rod" for an easy electric option. At least that's what they were called in the good ol' days.
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Post by prowlerlawrence1 on May 12, 2020 18:11:32 GMT -8
I've got a 1972 prowler with the same problem. PO bypassed the heater so having little money and time to play with this unit, I'm dismantling heater systematically, hopefully it was only leaking fittings and not a cracked tank, we'll see. I have the owner's manual with an exploded view and part numbers. The address to order is from 1972, any idea if the place still exists?
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Post by vikx on May 12, 2020 23:43:00 GMT -8
I doubt there's hope for your water heater. First, test it under pressure for a cracked tank. Put water to the system and you'll see the water. Sometimes it gushes, sometimes seeps.
Parts are pretty much unavailable.
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Post by prowlerlawrence1 on May 22, 2020 7:56:43 GMT -8
Thanks for getting back to me, that was my thought also. Even if I found the exact heater in the RV graveyard there'd be no guarantee that it would not have the same problem, so, on to another plan,any suggestions?
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Post by Hamlet on May 22, 2020 8:18:35 GMT -8
We’ve used our tankless heater for more than 10 years now and are perfectly satisfied. It runs well from both city water or the storage tank. A battery signals the gas to come on when it senses water pressure. One does have to adjust the temp a bit to accommodate particularly cold water for late autumn or early spring camping, but that’s easily done with the controls on the unit.
We have had two leaks, probably from not draining the unit completely in winter, but my hubby fixed the problem easily. You don’t say whether you have a bathroom or not, so placement may be an issue. We reinforced the wall in the closet (Compacts had a huge closet that turns nicely into a wet room8 and hung it on the front wall behind the porta potty.
Good luck!
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Post by vikx on May 22, 2020 10:20:08 GMT -8
Measure the space your tank needs. There may be a modern water heater that will fit. Atwood has tanks that retro fit perfectly in some cases...
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