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Post by Teachndad on Aug 28, 2016 6:33:52 GMT -8
Hi Friends, Looking for anyone who wants to comment on the color of available lenses for the Bargman grab assist handle light lense as sold by Lanny Web. www.customvintagetrailerparts.com/CustomVintageTrailerParts.com/Lenses.html#8What's your preference and why? Personally, I seem to be drawn to the purple one, but only at night. That color might create a cool effect, but does it seem out of place? What's it look like at night - violet or yellow? What was the original color? Incandescent or LED? Does the violet color lense stick out visually? Does the violet color lense look odd during daylight hours? It just seems like the yellow would blend in better. Dunno? I added a poll. You can strike your vote above. Thanks, Rod
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 28, 2016 6:44:25 GMT -8
Oh dang I didn't know anyone was making these lenses. How cool! You know I sold an original handle like this with the original lens intact about 7 years ago for $175 on Ebay LOL... This is great. Thanks for posting the website. Now we can all have lit handles again.
I like the yellow because it acts like a bug resistant light. Just my personal preference. I am not a fan of LED at all. I don't like the type of light they put out.
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Post by azshastanut on Aug 28, 2016 8:55:44 GMT -8
One thing you should know before you order. There are two different Bargman grab handles and the lenses made by Lanny do not fit both. At first glance the handles look the same. The handle on my 57 Kenskill is the correct size for that lense. The handles on all of my Shasta's will not accept the lense. Lanny will reproduce a lense that would fit the Bargman size handle if anyone can supply him with an original. I will post the differences in dimensions later today.
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Post by vintagebruce on Aug 28, 2016 12:28:30 GMT -8
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Post by azshastanut on Aug 28, 2016 12:42:05 GMT -8
OK, Here are the dimensions. The lens reproduced by Lanny has a flange which measures 1 1/2" and it slides into a channel on the handle. The Bargman handle without a light has a mounting channel which is 2" wide. The other parts that Lanny sells will fit that handle, but the lense is to small. I would love to get my hands on an original larger grab handle lense with a 2" flange, and send it to Lanny to reproduce. Anybody out there have one? ? I have a violet reproduction lense on my 57 Kenskill 16T. The violet is very pale and doesn't show when turned on. If we can have the larger lense made for my Shasta's, I will order it in yellow.
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Post by Teachndad on Aug 28, 2016 13:06:11 GMT -8
OK, Here are the dimensions. The lens reproduced by Lanny has a flange which measures 1 1/2" and it slides into a channel on the handle. The Bargman handle without a light has a mounting channel which is 2" wide. The other parts that Lanny sells will fit that handle, but the lense is to small. I would love to get my hands on an original larger grab handle lense with a 2" flange, and send it to Lanny to reproduce. Anybody out there have one? ? I have a violet reproduction lense on my 57 Kenskill 16T. The violet is very pale and doesn't show when turned on. If we can have the larger lense made for my Shasta's, I will order it in yellow. Gary, Lanny may have worked around the fit issue for the lense size. Forgive me if you already know this. On this page, www.customvintagetrailerparts.com/CustomVintageTrailerParts.com/BargmanAssist_Handle.html, we can see all his parts that he produces for the rebuild kit. I noticed that he makes clips for the lens. They can be seen in the photo on the linked page. Also, on my original link, the clips can barely be seen under the top of the handle in the shadow. Would these be for when the lense is too small? Cheers, Rod
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Post by azshastanut on Aug 28, 2016 14:21:13 GMT -8
Hi Rod, The clips and screws hold the lense in place on the narrower handle. On the wider handle there is no flange wide enough for a screw hole. The lense would be held in place by the trailer skin, the groves in the handle and the handle itself when mounted.
I've been watching your progress, looks like it's slow but steady, just like me with my stable full of projects. I analyzed my efforts and came to the conclusion that I was using a shotgun approach. The number of projects was overwhelming and I just couldn't seem to focus. I would work on one trailer, and then jump to another. About a month ago I singled out a 59 Shasta Airflyte that I will be putting up for sale. I decided that I would do some of the major work on it and leave some for the future owner. I have a target date of October 20th for the Spooktacular Rally at Catalina State Park in Tucson. I am spending almost every waking hour on it and I will continue to work on it until it sells. Of course the more I do the higher the selling price. I have a "to do" list and am sticking to it. The trailer is a really good candidate for restoration. It is 100% complete and original with only a slight sign of water damage around the vent, and the usual water damage front and back. I am hoping to replace the skirt boards and the rear framing and paneling. I am removing all windows, rails, vents, and re-sealing with fresh butyl. Have already rebuilt both cargo doors, all of the windows with new seals. The only window I havent removed , cleaned, polished is the front one, since the front needs re-framing new skin and new paneling. If it sells quickly the new owner will have that project, otherwise I will tackle that also.
My best to you,
Gary
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Post by Ten on Aug 28, 2016 14:53:11 GMT -8
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Post by ladywendolyn on Aug 29, 2016 6:40:02 GMT -8
I like the yellow, but I have yet to decide if I want to spend that much money on a little glass thing. It's at the bottom of the list for now although I do like it and have a handle. I imagine that once my trailer is finished and the big bills are paid, then I will be indulging myself in items like this. This is a good reminder to me to run the wire while the skin is off.
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Post by chametzoo on Aug 29, 2016 18:56:26 GMT -8
I am not a fan of LED at all. I don't like the type of light they put out. Larry… you'd like the LED's in my trailer. They're 12v and I used them in all 7 interior fixtures in the trailer. I spent a lot of time shopping for the right ones in the right intensity and color. And since I'm a photographer and experienced in lighting a set, I knew how to gel and diffuse them to make them look a lot more like incandescent. I can see that like me, you are very sensitive to the quality and color temperature of lighting. A burning tungsten filament has a very specific color profile… it's not just a "warm light". I don't particularly like most LED's right out of the box… but you have to admit, they're a whole lot better than the era of compact fluorescent lights we had to endure! With all of that said, when all of the lights are ON in my trailer, they consume less than 25W of my battery power!
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 29, 2016 20:51:26 GMT -8
I am not a fan of LED at all. I don't like the type of light they put out. Larry… you'd like the LED's in my trailer. They're 12v and I used them in all 7 interior fixtures in the trailer. I spent a lot of time shopping for the right ones in the right intensity and color. And since I'm a photographer and experienced in lighting a set, I knew how to gel and diffuse them to make them look a lot more like incandescent. I can see that like me, you are very sensitive to the quality and color temperature of lighting. A burning tungsten filament has a very specific color profile… it's not just a "warm light". I don't particularly like most LED's right out of the box… but you have to admit, they're a whole lot better than the era of compact fluorescent lights we had to endure! With all of that said, when all of the lights are ON in my trailer, they consume less than 25W of my battery power! Well I'd have to see it. I have very sensitive eyes. I can't even go outside without sun glasses.
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Post by theresa on Aug 30, 2016 10:30:17 GMT -8
I am not a fan of LED at all. I don't like the type of light they put out. Larry… you'd like the LED's in my trailer. They're 12v and I used them in all 7 interior fixtures in the trailer. I spent a lot of time shopping for the right ones in the right intensity and color. And since I'm a photographer and experienced in lighting a set, I knew how to gel and diffuse them to make them look a lot more like incandescent. I can see that like me, you are very sensitive to the quality and color temperature of lighting. A burning tungsten filament has a very specific color profile… it's not just a "warm light". I don't particularly like most LED's right out of the box… but you have to admit, they're a whole lot better than the era of compact fluorescent lights we had to endure! With all of that said, when all of the lights are ON in my trailer, they consume less than 25W of my battery power! Link to what you're using for lights?
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Post by mobiltec on Aug 30, 2016 11:43:38 GMT -8
Also I think $40 is plenty fair for the lens. It's something that the guy will not be selling millions of and he has to make up his investment. And no one else has them. Like I said I sold one of these old handles with the lens intact on Ebay for $175 and that was 8 years ago.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Aug 31, 2016 10:56:25 GMT -8
Larry… you'd like the LED's in my trailer. They're 12v and I used them in all 7 interior fixtures in the trailer. I spent a lot of time shopping for the right ones in the right intensity and color. And since I'm a photographer and experienced in lighting a set, I knew how to gel and diffuse them to make them look a lot more like incandescent. I can see that like me, you are very sensitive to the quality and color temperature of lighting. A burning tungsten filament has a very specific color profile… it's not just a "warm light". I don't particularly like most LED's right out of the box… but you have to admit, they're a whole lot better than the era of compact fluorescent lights we had to endure! With all of that said, when all of the lights are ON in my trailer, they consume less than 25W of my battery power! Link to what you're using for lights? Do you have photos chametzoo? SaveSave
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Post by chametzoo on Aug 31, 2016 15:34:06 GMT -8
Larry… you'd like the LED's in my trailer. They're 12v and I used them in all 7 interior fixtures in the trailer. I spent a lot of time shopping for the right ones in the right intensity and color. And since I'm a photographer and experienced in lighting a set, I knew how to gel and diffuse them to make them look a lot more like incandescent. I can see that like me, you are very sensitive to the quality and color temperature of lighting. A burning tungsten filament has a very specific color profile… it's not just a "warm light". I don't particularly like most LED's right out of the box… but you have to admit, they're a whole lot better than the era of compact fluorescent lights we had to endure! With all of that said, when all of the lights are ON in my trailer, they consume less than 25W of my battery power! Link to what you're using for lights? Theresa… they're just garden variety LED bulbs. The links below I think are the 3 sources. There is also a wattage comparison chart so you can see how wattages you know for tungsten and fluorescent, translate. You'll see how incredibly low the consumption is. I like to use a number of low wattage sources to build up the interior light. Typically I like the "torpedo" shape for sconces, or globe fixtures often found in vintage trailers. Always choose the "warm" variety. What that means is the light will be yellower, but it will still have a cold feeling compared to tungsten, because when you "burn" an element like tungsten to make light, it has a very specific color make up and the human eye is very sensitive and hard to fool. So I go further and I've stretched small white party balloons over the torpedo bulbs and that warms them up further and diffuses them as well (esp. if I can't find a frosted version). The "corn cob" type of LED is also useful for some globe fixtures and also cylindrical fixtures. They are cylindrical and have LED chips distributed all around them and they throw light in all directions very well. If you can't find bulbs in the base size to fit your fixtures… no worries, there is a base adapter for almost every application. LEDlight.com has plenty of those. This opens up the choices quite a bit. Since I am a photographer I also use colored "gels" (plastic sheet) to warm up some of the lights as well. Choice of shade material, glass or textile, can also change the color and quality of the lights. This kind of concern and activity is certainly not for everyone, but I think that the lighting really supports the more traditional wood interiors of the vintage trailers. And lastly, make sure you buy the correct voltage, either 12 or 120 for the appropriate system. Fixtures meant for 120 applications can be used in 12V wired systems as long as you use a 12V bulb. Hope this helps. Home Lighting - Fixtures, Lamps & More Online | Lamps Plus
LEDLight.com: Online Shopping for LED Lighting Products.
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