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We're starting from scratch with the wiring of our trailer. We plan on having a very simple, mostly 12V system, with maybe one 110V outlet near the kitchen. My plan is for most of the wiring to live inside the cabinets as well for minimal drilling of the framing. The list is not 100%, but let me know what you folks think? Recommendations?

7 pin harness 6 foot with junction box
www.amazon.com/Conntek-Black-Plug-Inline-Trailer/dp/B004D29DD6/ref=pd_sbs_263_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41ucWwSuExL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1JW7ZTQKN9D5BRKDP0QS

7 pin harness 8 foot with junction box
www.amazon.com/Conntek-Inline-Trailer-7-Gang-Junction/dp/B004D2I75Q/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1462917682&sr=8-14&keywords=7+way+trailer+wiring+junction+box

Fuse block with ground bar
www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-Blade-12-Circuit/dp/B000MMC7QG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462917921&sr=8-2&keywords=12V+fuse+blocks+with+ground

Lighting - I like the prices of these pucks, but professional lighting designer wife will likely disagree
www.amazon.com/Dream-Lighting-Recessed-Light-White/dp/B00ODSAQBI/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1462825168&sr=8-7&keywords=LED+undercabinet+12V

Switches - Not the best for a vintage look, but we're still shopping
www.amazon.com/JR-Products-12245-Triple-Switch/dp/B002UC6PY6/ref=pd_sim_263_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41NTrRlL%2B6L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1RN44NNKMT2JSNWNQ2Z5

Accessory ports - For device charging and also cigarette style reading lights
www.amazon.com/ISWEES-Cigarette-Lighter-Splitter-Charger/dp/B00RJVJJCI/ref=pd_sim_263_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=51wj0AomA0L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1RN44NNKMT2JSNWNQ2Z5

14 gauge wire
www.amazon.com/Trailer-Wiring-Harness-spools-colors/dp/B00L3LU33E/ref=sr_1_11?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1462825369&sr=1-11&keywords=14+gauge+automotive+wire

www.amazon.com/Grand-General-55244-14-Gauge-Primary/dp/B00OMZLKEO/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1462825369&sr=1-4&keywords=14+gauge+automotive+wire

www.amazon.com/Grand-General-55233-16-Gauge-Primary/dp/B00OMZLK7G/ref=sr_1_10?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1462825369&sr=1-10&keywords=14+gauge+automotive+wire

Battery maintainer, 1.5A
www.amazon.com/Schumacher-XM1-5-Automatic-Charger-Maintainer/dp/B004EI6A8K

Hard wired combo LP/CO detector
www.amazon.com/MTI-35-742-WT-Carbon-Monoxide-Detector/dp/B005GSFUWE?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

Battery operated smoke detector
www.amazon.com/MTI-Industries-SA-775-Smoke-Alarm/dp/B000CNRRU6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

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With that type of fuse block you will need a separate ground bus.

Deep cycle batteries typically have a recommended recharge rate. Best to choose a charger that is within the manufacturers recommended range. That .75 amp charger/maintainer may be a tad small.

No need for the charger/converter, overkill for your system in my opinion.

I am putting this hard wired combo LP/CO detector in mine: www.amazon.com/MTI-35-742-WT-Carbon-Monoxide-Detector/dp/B005GSFUWE?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00

Also going with this battery operated smoke detector: www.amazon.com/MTI-Industries-SA-775-Smoke-Alarm/dp/B000CNRRU6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

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bigbill 4K Member Posts: 4,098 Likes: 1,307 Currently Offline	New 12V system shopping list May 9, 2016 18:03:31 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by bigbill on May 9, 2016 18:03:31 GMT -8 That fuse block will work fine for your 12 volt circuits but make sure you protect the area where the wires plug on to the outside so that nothing can come in contact with them causing a problem.

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I'm going to use this maintainer. $20

www.lowes.com/pd_595175-41462-XM1-5_0__?productId=50256403&store_code=1878&cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-ToolsAndHardware-_-AutoAndGarageSpecialty-_-50256403:Schumacher_Electric&CAWELAID=&kpid=50256403&CAWELAID=320011480004324782&k_clickID=a9b1bbbb-6703-45cf-9ba2-b08074ddcc98

"Micro-processor controlled technology that automatically adjusts the amperage rate to charge and maintain battery"

I believe this is the one vikx uses. The downside is it needs strapped down since it doesn't come with any other clamping system.

I like this VTS switch:
www.vintagetrailersupply.com/Metal-Black-Rocker-Swith-p/vts-831.htm

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7 Way cord: go with 8 feet and a junction box under the front. There are only 3 wires that need to proceed to the back from the J box: TM, RT and LT. You'll need the charge wire (black), Ground (white), and Brake hot (blue) up front. Yellow is normally not used in a vintage trailer (it's auxilliary or backup lights, middle post on a 7 way)

Fuse block: most will work. I like a separate "ground bracket" so that I can really be sure it is tight and clean to the frame.

Lighting is your choice. I suggest LED bulbs.

A simple $20-$30 maintainer will work fine with a single battery.

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May 9, 2016 16:39:23 GMT -8 RinTin said:

Also going with this battery operated smoke detector: www.amazon.com/MTI-Industries-SA-775-Smoke-Alarm/dp/B000CNRRU6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

RinTin,

Just a question about the smoke detector you have chosen, why only go with a smoke detector? I can tell you from personal experience that you can't always count on being able to smell gas leak. So will definitely be adding carbon monoxide detector to our trailer.

Sorry to but in, and I know it is off this topic, but if my family had been in a trailer instead of a tent when our accident occurred we never would have woken up and I'm a big proponent of CO2 detectors everywhere now.

Margaret

I decided to get a vintage trailer so I could get out of my house more and see the country. How then did most of the trailer get in my house and the other parts of it get to see the country?

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May 9, 2016 12:37:52 GMT -8 danrhodes said:

We're starting from scratch with the wiring of our trailer. We plan on having a very simple, mostly 12V system, with maybe one 110V outlet near the kitchen.

Hi Dan,
Just curious about what the benefits to a mainly 12V system is? We are still trying to decide if we want to add a 12V system to our '57 Westerner, or just get battery operated lights and detectors. We will do some camping without hookups, but mostly we will have shore power where we plan on taking her. So just wanting to know your thoughts on mainly 12V.

Thanks,

Margaret

I decided to get a vintage trailer so I could get out of my house more and see the country. How then did most of the trailer get in my house and the other parts of it get to see the country?

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Battery lights are probably more cost effective. I just figured while the skins are off, I should add all the wires I can. It's a little cleaner look to use low profile lights and switches, but if I already had some wiring, I might skip the 12v

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goshawks Active Member working on the trotwood when not camping Posts: 182 Likes: 56 Currently Offline	New 12V system shopping list May 10, 2016 7:48:31 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by goshawks on May 10, 2016 7:48:31 GMT -8 With LED lighting go warm white rather than operating room cool white.

msgoehring Full Member Just call me Margaret the shellac, buff, sand an shine queen. Posts: 860 Likes: 303 1957 Westerner Deluxe Currently Offline	New 12V system shopping list May 10, 2016 11:11:27 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by msgoehring on May 10, 2016 11:11:27 GMT -8 That's a good point about having the skin off and adding all the wiring. We are still fighting house paint so we can get the skin off, but I think I'll mention this to hubby and see what he thinks. Thanks.
	I decided to get a vintage trailer so I could get out of my house more and see the country. How then did most of the trailer get in my house and the other parts of it get to see the country?

cabinetmakercorey New Member Posts: 21 Likes: 12 1953 Hanson 19' Love Bug Currently Offline	New 12V system shopping list May 10, 2016 12:50:55 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by cabinetmakercorey on May 10, 2016 12:50:55 GMT -8 Rin Tin I have also seen this Spartan up in Bham It used to be parked for business up off of iowa street I think. Glad to know we are in the same vicinity Im in Mv

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May 10, 2016 7:24:06 GMT -8 msgoehring said:

May 9, 2016 16:39:23 GMT -8 RinTin said:

RinTin,

Just a question about the smoke detector you have chosen, why only go with a smoke detector? I can tell you from personal experience that you can't always count on being able to smell gas leak. So will definitely be adding carbon monoxide detector to our trailer.

Sorry to but in, and I know it is off this topic, but if my family had been in a trailer instead of a tent when our accident occurred we never would have woken up and I'm a big proponent of CO2 detectors everywhere now.

Margaret

Hi Margaret,

In addition to the smoke detector, I have a combination LP (Propane) and CO (carbon monoxide) detector.

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May 10, 2016 12:50:55 GMT -8 cabinetmakercorey said:

Rin Tin I have also seen this Spartan up in Bham It used to be parked for business up off of iowa street I think. Glad to know we are in the same vicinity Im in Mv

I live in Kingston on the Kitsap Peninsula.

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danrhodes Global Moderator Posts: 2,906 Likes: 1,142 1965 Field and Stream Currently Offline	New 12V system shopping list May 10, 2016 14:07:13 GMT -8 cabinetmakercorey likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by danrhodes on May 10, 2016 14:07:13 GMT -8 Changed some of my list based on recommendations. Thanks all.
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RinTin Full Member Posts: 760 Likes: 292 Currently Offline	New 12V system shopping list May 10, 2016 16:15:50 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by RinTin on May 10, 2016 16:15:50 GMT -8 A circuit breaker between the battery and fuse block is also good idea.
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