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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 14:40:36 GMT -8
Hello all, I have been researching to the best of my ability to find an answer to what I can do to effectively protect the underside of my plywood floor on my Shasta. I have seen reviews about Herculiner, the fence post coatings, and then Henry's Damp proofer sealer as well. I don't know quite what to do. Led to believe that a solid rubber undercoating keeps the wood from breathing and accelerates rot. But others love that stuff. I am sure here somewhere is a conclusive answer! And referrals to the thread or answers to my own thread here are greatly appreciated. My floor is in good condition currently solid as can be and completely dry right now and will be good weather for several days, so now would be a good time to do something. Also, the wood has not recently been put in, it's been a few years. Maybe that argues that I don't need to do anything but I would like to, it can't last forever exposed as it is.
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Post by danrhodes on Feb 8, 2016 16:01:24 GMT -8
vikx recommended Henry's to me and it seems to be a good value choice. It's pretty easy to apply, though can be messy...it tends to set up on the surface, but remains softer underneath and will leave dark marks if you rub it with something. It's good enough for a roof, so it should be good enough for the underside of a trailer that shouldn't be seeing much water anyways and it's cheap enough that you can touch it up every few years for rock dings, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 16:08:09 GMT -8
Hi there Dan thanks, yes I saw that recommendation and it's quite cheap. If I know it won't accelerate rot I think I will go for it. I had the same line of logic you have. Any thoughts on who would have it in stock perhaps? My home depot says need to order it. Which I could if needed. Just a hassle
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Post by danrhodes on Feb 8, 2016 16:11:36 GMT -8
Hi there Dan thanks, yes I saw that recommendation and it's quite cheap. If I know it won't accelerate rot I think I will go for it. I had the same line of logic you have. Any thoughts on who would have it in stock perhaps? My home depot says need to order it. Which I could if needed. Just a hassle Weird... My home depot had pallets of it. Go to the roofing aisle in person. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 16:17:30 GMT -8
That's hilarious maybe mine does too, I saw the online results saying they didn't have any. Quite possibly wrong. Thank you.
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Post by mobiltec on Feb 8, 2016 16:35:22 GMT -8
That's hilarious maybe mine does too, I saw the online results saying they didn't have any. Quite possibly wrong. Thank you. Even Home Depot's computers are stupid... Oh there I go again. Probably going to offend someone here that works at Home Depot LOL... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 19:28:32 GMT -8
That's hilarious maybe mine does too, I saw the online results saying they didn't have any. Quite possibly wrong. Thank you. Even Home Depot's computers are stupid... Oh there I go again. Probably going to offend someone here that works at Home Depot LOL... Lol. Mobiltec I saw a bunch of "Henry Wet Patch " available in black or white... otherwise the particular Henry product that says dampproofer and sealer no they didn't have it.. meaning for once maybe the computers were right! Haha. But I don't know for sure if what they had would do good or not. |
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Post by kirkadie on Feb 8, 2016 20:15:50 GMT -8
Rich, I sometimes wonder if we overlook some of the most obvious problems our trailers have faced before we got them; like being forgotten and left out in fields or behind garages once the shine was gone for the original owners. These are reasons we have faced wall crinkles and floor rot. I don't think we need to overspend on "best solutions" for fixes we are faced with once we adopt them, but more immediate protection from our 'whatever' annual usage they face once we are done fixing. If you want to insure your floor integrity while driving to the next campground in a downpour, the difference between a high dollar truck bed liner and a $15 gallon of fence post tar will only be the money you spent. Both will prevent water incursion. The only difference in whether your windows leak or don't will be the attention spent on keeping the butyl tape refreshed. An unlimited budget offers more options for longevity, but attention to the trailer's welfare may actually go farther than the dollars spent.
Once you have done all the work you are faced with, the best money spent, in my humble opinion, will be a dry, sun protected space for all the days the trailer sits and waits for it's next excursion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:37:31 GMT -8
Rich, I sometimes wonder if we overlook some of the most obvious problems our trailers have faced before we got them; like being forgotten and left out in fields or behind garages once the shine was gone for the original owners. These are reasons we have faced wall crinkles and floor rot. I don't think we need to overspend on "best solutions" for fixes we are faced with once we adopt them, but more immediate protection from our 'whatever' annual usage they face once we are done fixing. If you want to insure your floor integrity while driving to the next campground in a downpour, the difference between a high dollar truck bed liner and a $15 gallon of fence post tar will only be the money you spent. Both will prevent water incursion. The only difference in whether your windows leak or don't will be the attention spent on keeping the butyl tape refreshed. An unlimited budget offers more options for longevity, but attention to the trailer's welfare may actually go farther than the dollars spent. Once you have done all the work you are faced with, the best money spent, in my humble opinion, will be a dry, sun protected space for all the days the trailer sits and waits for it's next excursion. You have such a good point here. A lot of hype in what's the best of the best and many just lose interest and whether the best product is on the trailer or the cheapest, it's wasting away untouched somewhere. Well I am so against something I own not being used I know I would never let any trailer sit, I would sell it! I'm too cheap to let an investment fall by the way side. LOL |
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Post by vikx on Feb 8, 2016 20:59:49 GMT -8
Rich, I think any of the "thinner" paint on black roof products would work for undercoating. You can also get spray undercoating and use that. Really like the water clean up of the Damp proofer. Takes a while to dry, but cures to a fairly tough coating.
I wouldn't use any thick asphalt product, mainly I don't like the smell and it tends to crack off when dry.
I suppose Snow Slop would work as well but show the dirt being white...
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Post by chriss on Feb 11, 2016 0:00:19 GMT -8
Whatever was used on my Loafer has worked for 50+ years. The floor and wood beams are in great shape, and I've stored it on the dirt. I would guess it's an exterior oil based paint or stain. It's black. Wouldn't hesitate to redo this method again. I have nothing against undercoating, but I would get worried about trapped moisture, if water somehow found its way in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 8:52:10 GMT -8
Hi Chris yes thanks that's my concern too. Some type of solution like an appropriate paint or something similar does seem like it makes it less likely to have completely trapped moisture but still have protection.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 17:48:00 GMT -8
Ok everyone good evening, I apologize I am beating a dead horse. I have a question concerning whether to have the different framing pieces of wood across the underside of the floor sealed.. whatever product I will have sprayed or painted on will no doubt matter if there is some part of the wood that still can be reached exposed by water. What would do nicely for this? I know some have used silicone, I really like the idea of placing some gutter seal in those crevaces to really give water the boot and show it who's boss.
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Post by danrhodes on Feb 12, 2016 19:50:51 GMT -8
Ok everyone good evening, I apologize I am beating a dead horse. I have a question concerning whether to have the different framing pieces of wood across the underside of the floor sealed.. whatever product I will have sprayed or painted on will no doubt matter if there is some part of the wood that still can be reached exposed by water. What would do nicely for this? I know some have used silicone, I really like the idea of placing some gutter seal in those crevaces to really give water the boot and show it who's boss. I sealed them all separately before installing |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2016 20:25:13 GMT -8
Boy I wish I could do that but it simply won't happen unless I take it all apart of course. It's a shame the floor is in excellent shape but only a few years old. I appreciate everyone's previous responses as well, I think I'm just gonna give up and leave it alone. This is way too ridiculous by now. Old adage to not fix it if it ain't broke I guess.
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