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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 13:26:14 GMT -8
Hello all. I'm still just a newbie and have a lot to learn. I have a Shasta TT c.1970 "Phyllis" that was rebuilt from the ground up. I say "rebuilt" because she was not "restored" at all. Inside she has the original sink, and curtains. THAT'S IT! Everything else is new, or has been reused from other RVs. So, having nothing original, I'm making no plans to restore it to it's original glory.
She was rebuilt by a carpenter who wanted to keep the costs as low as possible, so he covered the walls with cheap wood paneling. It makes Phyllis, an extremely depressing camper to walk into.
Being a cheap ******* myself, instead of purchasing a bunch of expensive birch like many of you cats, I wondered if wallpaper was a viable option. It gets very humid here in the spring and summer, so I wasn't sure if it would hold up in storage.
Has anyone tried it before??
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Post by chametzoo on Jul 24, 2014 16:33:01 GMT -8
Hello all. I'm still just a newbie and have a lot to learn. I have a Shasta TT c.1970 "Phyllis" that was rebuilt from the ground up. I say "rebuilt" because she was not "restored" at all. Inside she has the original sink, and curtains. THAT'S IT! Everything else is new, or has been reused from other RVs. So, having nothing original, I'm making no plans to restore it to it's original glory. She was rebuilt by a carpenter who wanted to keep the costs as low as possible, so he covered the walls with cheap wood paneling. It makes Phyllis, an extremely depressing camper to walk into. Being a cheap ******* myself, instead of purchasing a bunch of expensive birch like many of you cats, I wondered if wallpaper was a viable option. It gets very humid here in the spring and summer, so I wasn't sure if it would hold up in storage. Has anyone tried it before?? Wallpaper is not a great wall treatment even in regular residential installations (personal opinion)… so I don't expect it to hold too well and for too long in your humid trailer. It also depends on how well it's applied and to what it is being applied to. I've seen wallpaper last for decades without a curled or peeling edge in sight… and I've seen it jump off the wall after only a few years. I'd still want to take a peak under the wood paneling and make sure it's not a cover up job, considering how cheaply the previous owner wanted to do this so called rebuild. If the paneling is legit, you could consider painting, which I think would be better than wallpaper. With masking and different colors you could get rather creative with your interior :-) And I'll say it before anyone else does: How about some pictures! We'd like to see Phyllis, paneling and all.
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Post by SusieQ on Jul 24, 2014 18:56:01 GMT -8
I agree with Chamet, except I love wallpaper on old homes. But trailers are not usually kept at ideal temps all year, plus you have humidity and condensation to impair it. If you do go with wallpaper, be sure to prime properly with primer meant for wallpaper, this will help in the removal if you don't like it or for the next owner. Also, don't us glues with natural/organic ingredients (bugs like to eat them). If you us vinyl wallpaper, it will shrink at the seams from temp changes, leaving a space (ask me how I know).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 19:27:11 GMT -8
Wallpaper is not a great wall treatment even in regular residential installations (personal opinion)… so I don't expect it to hold too well and for too long in your humid trailer. It also depends on how well it's applied and to what it is being applied to. I've seen wallpaper last for decades without a curled or peeling edge in sight… and I've seen it jump off the wall after only a few years. I'd still want to take a peak under the wood paneling and make sure it's not a cover up job, considering how cheaply the previous owner wanted to do this so called rebuild. If the paneling is legit, you could consider painting, which I think would be better than wallpaper. With masking and different colors you could get rather creative with your interior :-) And I'll say it before anyone else does: How about some pictures! We'd like to see Phyllis, paneling and all. The paneling is quite legit. It's not a cover up job at all. The man who rebuilt her did it right, just didn't put any love in it. If you wanna see pics I got a renovation thread in the renovations section on this forum called "Meet Phyllis". I think painting cheap wood paneling may look cheesy with the vertical lines... I've never seen that done before but that's the way I'd imagine it.
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Post by SusieQ on Jul 24, 2014 19:32:00 GMT -8
It really doesn't look bad to paint the paneling with the lines. My parents had two homes, one of which I own now that had rooms with paneling and when it was painted, it looked really nice. You just have to get the paint down in the grooves. Also, the grooves will show through the wall paper if you don't spackle or tape them
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 19:47:31 GMT -8
It really doesn't look bad to paint the paneling with the lines. My parents had two homes, one of which I own now that had rooms with paneling and when it was painted, it looked really nice. You just have to get the paint down in the grooves. Also, the grooves will show through the wall paper if you don't spackle or tape them Thanks for the info.
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Post by ladywendolyn on Jul 25, 2014 7:37:58 GMT -8
I have used wallpaper on the ceiling of very humid bathrooms a few times. You can do it, but it requires extra steps. There are very heavy duty wallpaper glues and wall primers out there. Use them both. I also calk around the perimeter of the wallpaper with transparent calking (not silicone) and this holds the edge in place and helps to stop the dreaded peel. Hope that helps
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Post by chametzoo on Jul 25, 2014 8:39:56 GMT -8
The paneling is quite legit. It's not a cover up job at all. The man who rebuilt her did it right, just didn't put any love in it. Gotcha regarding the rebuild! Maybe try doing a painting test on a scraps of that grooved panelling. It's pretty cheap at the lumber yard. Get as small a sheet as you can and divide it up and try a few colors schemes and test other ideas like flat v. gloss or semi gloss, etc. Take the samples inside the trailer so you can see your work in context and you'll have a better idea of what works and what doesn't. It sounds like a pain to do, but it will give you the confidence to know you're going in the right direction and it sounds like you are intent on improving the interior look over what's already there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 8:45:20 GMT -8
I have used wallpaper on the ceiling of very humid bathrooms a few times. You can do it, but it requires extra steps. There are very heavy duty wallpaper glues and wall primers out there. Use them both. I also calk around the perimeter of the wallpaper with transparent calking (not silicone) and this holds the edge in place and helps to stop the dreaded peel. Hope that helps Yeesh! Maybe this is more trouble than it's worth.
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Post by SusieQ on Jul 25, 2014 9:05:30 GMT -8
I really don't think you can go wrong with paint on paneling. A lot of color choices and always easy to re-do if you don't like it. Nobody ever tries to get that grooved paneling look back!
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Post by chametzoo on Jul 25, 2014 11:09:32 GMT -8
If you wanna see pics I got a renovation thread in the renovations section on this forum called "Meet Phyllis" . Just looked at your photos…. I'd leave it just as it is. Somehow it all looks right together.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 11:42:14 GMT -8
Just looked at your photos…. I'd leave it just as it is. Somehow it all looks right together. I can appreciate what you're saying, but when I open her up, I just feel depressed and closed-in like a coat closet. Before I tore down my old '89 pop up, I wanted to hang out, cook meals, eat, and spend time in it, even when it was sitting in the driveway. But Phyllis just makes me want to sleep or suck down strong cocktails.
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Post by SusieQ on Jul 25, 2014 12:16:13 GMT -8
And I agree again, your paneling looks good, but I also understand about wanting lighten things up a bit. And I'll be glad to join you for cocktails, lol. Yours has a wood look to it, unlike the plastic looking ones. Wonder what some warm amber shellac or poly urethane would do? You could try an inconspicuous spot. Or hey, slap some wallpaper on it; it can always be removed.
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Post by chametzoo on Jul 25, 2014 17:25:16 GMT -8
But Phyllis just makes me want to sleep or suck down strong cocktails. Understood… You're used to the kind of light that a pop-up lets in. I still think a good light paint scheme would work well in there while leaving some of the wood finish of the solid cabinets. As I wrote earlier, test out some colors on scraps of paneling… that might help you make your choices.
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Post by hedlund on Jul 25, 2014 21:36:02 GMT -8
Also, perhaps it just needs colorful formica & bedding?
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