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Post by ozmo on Mar 16, 2019 20:43:30 GMT -8
schallerhardwood.com/multiple stores good prices and a wide variety of plywoods INCLUDING natural birch vernier core. 100 E. Ashcroft, Poplar Bluff, MO 63901 Ph. 573-785-1003 Fax 573-785-6445 Truck goes to each location twice weekly so ordering is quick if needed. Branch Locations: St. Louis, MO Sales Office, 4527 Green Park Road, St. Louis MO 63123 Ph. 314-894-1499 Fax 314-894-1052 Springfield, MO Area Sales Office, 612 Jonathan, Marionville MO 65705 Ph. 417-258-7770 Fax 417-258-7771 Tulsa, OK Sales Office, 6539 East 46th St. , Tulsa OK 74145 Ph 918-236-4107 Fax 918-236-4109 Springdale, AR Sales Office, 5180 N. Oak Building 1, Springdale, AR 72764 Ph479-717-2345 Fax 479-717-2331
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Post by kudzu on Mar 17, 2019 4:16:30 GMT -8
Any hardwood supplier will have many 1/4" and even a few 1/8" plywood options. Find the supply house for professional cabinet makers. Please don't confuse hardwood supplier with lumber yards. They are 2 different animals. Seldom do these places advertise bc their main customers are professionals. EXACTLY!! As I said in another thread you can search Plywood on Google Maps and often find these guys. They are hidden in industrial parks not on the main drag. They have no showrooms, you go the counter, tell the man what you want and they load your truck. They deal with cabinet makers, not weekend warriors even but they will sell to anyone. They just will not hold your hand and tell you what will work for you project. But if you know what you want and ask to see if before you buy I think most will work with you. I often pick my my hardwood off the forklift as they load my trailer.
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Post by ozmo on Apr 5, 2019 21:04:28 GMT -8
Any hardwood supplier will have many 1/4" and even a few 1/8" plywood options. Find the supply house for professional cabinet makers. Please don't confuse hardwood supplier with lumber yards. They are 2 different animals. Seldom do these places advertise bc their main customers are professionals. EXACTLY!! As I said in another thread you can search Plywood on Google Maps and often find these guys. They are hidden in industrial parks not on the main drag. They have no showrooms, you go the counter, tell the man what you want and they load your truck. They deal with cabinet makers, not weekend warriors even but they will sell to anyone. They just will not hold your hand and tell you what will work for you project. But if you know what you want and ask to see if before you buy I think most will work with you. I often pick my my hardwood off the forklift as they load my trailer. EXACTLY! These guys sell a lot to school industrial art programs.
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Post by ruderunner on Nov 24, 2019 6:12:49 GMT -8
Just a rant about plywood in general...
Ive noticed lately that many 4x8 sheets aren't really 4x8, usually about a quarter inch extra. And not cut square.
Makes for lots of uneven cuts and why doesn't that fit right moments.
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Post by danrhodes on Nov 24, 2019 7:23:43 GMT -8
I had to build my floor twice because I used the sale price sanded plywood from a big box store and it literally started falling apart/delaminating as it was being installed. I just pulled a piece out of the scrap pile for a project this weekend and it looked like it had been sitting in water for a decade.
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Post by ruderunner on Nov 24, 2019 14:40:14 GMT -8
I ran into the same thing with drywall about 10 years ago. It wasn't cut square on the ends and we layed up about 25 sheets before figuring out what happened.
Granted it wasn't a really square house to start but...
When you end up nearly half sheet off over a 50 foot run, something is wrong.
But we couldn't lay 4 Sheets next to each other without fudging something.
I did 4 walls inside my trailer that should have been 82 inches tall. Meaning i need to cut 14 inches off one end. So i did. But i now have at least a quarter inch difference in some spots. And this was done using a guide on a table saw. Iow, some walls are 82.25 inches and others are 81.75...
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Post by kirkadie on Nov 24, 2019 17:28:22 GMT -8
Birch seems elusive when we all first start to looking, maybe because most of us aren't cabinet makers so we start with big box. In a previous life I had a shop in Austin and fortunately a couple of hardwood dealers in town who knew how to get anything material related even when they carried a great supply of sheet goods as well as lumber. Here in S.E. Ohio things are very different and it took some research to find my supplier for 1/8" sheets. Best discovery, as others have mentioned is cabinet shops, who led me to places that either had it in stock or could quickly get me names of shops that ordered it in quantity, which was the biggest stumbling block to getting it locally because I only needed a few sheets and the local suppliers had to order in unitsand maybe be stuck with several dozen sheets. So, Start your search at your local cabinet shops, maybe take pictures with you of your project that I guarantee will impress them. You may be surprised at how much help you'll get.
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Post by nccamper on Nov 25, 2019 4:50:15 GMT -8
In our area the issues are both quality and availability. Five years ago cabinet makers here could get better quality 1/8" birch, old school lumberyards may more may not carry quality but they carried something and the big box stores no longer carried it.
Today cabinet makers here can only get poorly made foreign made 1/8" plywood and the local lumberyards only carry 5'x5' pieces. Some specialty lumberyards can order you freshly milled (in the south) 1/8" birch if you'll take at least 20 pieces at $50 a piece. I bought $1000 of birch milled a few years ago with very good results but that's much more wood than one camper needs.
I was told by a cabinet maker that the thin birch was mostly used in 8'x4' pieces in old mobile homes. So for a long time the mills made it for repairing these units but as the mobile homes have vanished here so has the demand for large pieces of birch.
Hopefully it's better in other parts of the country.
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Post by ruderunner on Dec 1, 2019 9:17:12 GMT -8
Anybody run into "fake" plywood?
I picked up 4 sheets of birch for my bedroom walls and while cutting them the sawdust didn't seem normal.
then I chipped some veneer off an edge and did a double take...
The core of the sheet isn't ply, it's hardboard.
Really?
I double checked the maple ply I had picked up before and it seems to be real ply.
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Post by danrhodes on Dec 1, 2019 19:47:04 GMT -8
Anybody run into "fake" plywood? I picked up 4 sheets of birch for my bedroom walls and while cutting them the sawdust didn't seem normal. then I chipped some veneer off an edge and did a double take... The core of the sheet isn't ply, it's hardboard. Really? I double checked the maple ply I had picked up before and it seems to be real ply. By hardboard, do you mean particle board? I've found a lot of 1/4 panels like this, but not 1/8 yet
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Post by ruderunner on Dec 2, 2019 1:51:08 GMT -8
Particle board, masonite, the dark colored stuff that's more like thick cardboard than wood.
And yes I'm using 14 inch.
Back to the lumber yards...
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Post by ruderunner on Dec 7, 2019 6:11:27 GMT -8
A potential source... DSI sells plywood wholesale and has many locations in the midwest. Lots of listings on their website for various sizes, grades and varieties of plywood. Especially interesing is their clearance section.
I found a listing for 4x12 sheets of 1/4 Maple ply, BC grade for...
$20 a sheet!
I'm going to email them to see if clearance stuff can be bought will call and how many sheets in a bunk.
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Post by turbodaddy on Dec 8, 2019 5:26:46 GMT -8
I posted this on another thread a day or two ago: I've bought 1/8" birch from this company, they do take great pains to ship (even internationally) without damage. I think it was about $45/ 4x8 sheet. What I got was very nice quality. Give them a call to get pricing and shipping. www.boulterplywood.com/
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Post by debranch on Dec 11, 2019 19:31:59 GMT -8
1/8" Ash Plywood found in N.C.
I stopped at an Antique Mall today that has a hardwood supplier on the back side of the building. I went in to just ask if they had any 1/8" birch or ash imagine my suppress..... ash ply by debra branch, on Flickr when I was shown a big stack of it...….. they don't have birch in 1/8" but they have it in 1/4" I asked if he would be ok with me sharing there contact with all of you. I think its going to be a good source for those of us in the area (N.C., S.C., Tennessee, Kentucky, Some of Virginia , West Virginia, Georgia) plywood by debra branch, on Flickr They have 2 locations I went into the Merion location there info is on the left hand side of the card. If you are interested in this I would call before you travel to get the plywood. I believe they are closed on Saturdays. I let him know that there is a need for 1/8" birch if he could find that that there is a market and its been hard to find...…... Now it will shock you to learn the price...…………
$17.00 per 4x8 sheet yes I was shocked but with all the problems we have been having getting any good plywood here in the south I know this would be welcome news.....
I guess its time to get started on the next project know that I have found some proper plywood...……… Debra
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Post by sunnywater on Jan 20, 2020 8:20:35 GMT -8
I have been searching, using all the recommendations here (google hardwood, call cabinet makers) and having no luck so far finding the 1/8" birch in the Wisconsin/Upper Midwest area. We have a '59 Shasta Airflyte and are doing a frame off restore. We will need to replace every panel (yes, every panel had water damage on the ends when we disassembled) so need to find consistently good panels.
We are thinking we may need to go with the Boulter Plywood website that was recommended unless someone has found a supplier within a 6 or so hour drive of southern Wisconsin.
Has anyone else tried Boulter? Happy with quality of the boards?
Thanks, everyone.
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